Posted October 7, 201311 yr Zach Phillips and Koyie Hill both elected free agency after being sent outright to AAA
October 8, 201311 yr Really Koyie? I mean, I'm no Koyie Hill fan and won't miss him but... he sucks. Did he think he'll get a better shot elsewhere? I can't think of a single other team that will give him any opportunity more than the Marlins do. Our "best" catcher is Jeff Mathis. With the organization clearly souring on Brantly and the next best thing being Kyle f'n Skipworth... Koyie probably had a better chance here than anywhere else. Especially the way this front office values being a veteran, professional, etc... Oh well, just sayin.
October 8, 201311 yr Author He can still sign with us again (if we are interested) if he doesn't find something else.
October 8, 201311 yr Author Whose is this Phillips character?  Probably someone who Wild Card thought was good enough to start next season.
October 8, 201311 yr Hill has been DFAed 3 times, released 3 times, non-tendered once and become a FA twice after clearing waivers and refusing an assignment to the minors. All in 11 years. The most interesting thing about him is that he almost completely cut off the thumb and all four fingers on his right (throwing) hand on a table saw in 2007, got it all reattached (except for the pinkie finger) and continued on as a MLB catcher for 250+ games, mostly with the Cubs. I've been a hobbyist woodworker for 40 years (with all of my extremities still intact) and just the thought of what he did gives me the shivers. Power tools running at 10 to 30,000 RPM demand 100% of your attention and a lapse of even an instant can be devastating. Seems he's not real good at either woodworking or baseball, but he certainly gets an "A" for persistence, his story is sort of inspirational.
October 8, 201311 yr Whose is this Phillips character? Probably someone who Wild Card thought was good enough to start next season.I mean, that's kind of a stupid comment considering I'm the one advocating that keeping some starters in this lineup is basically accepting defeat. Also really unnecessary, thanks. And Hill may have elected for FA to retire. If I remember we called him on his couch last spring and brought him out of his "retirement".
October 8, 201311 yr Hill has been DFAed 3 times, released 3 times, non-tendered once and become a FA twice after clearing waivers and refusing an assignment to the minors. All in 11 years. The most interesting thing about him is that he almost completely cut off the thumb and all four fingers on his right (throwing) hand on a table saw in 2007, got it all reattached (except for the pinkie finger) and continued on as a MLB catcher for 250+ games, mostly with the Cubs. I've been a hobbyist woodworker for 40 years (with all of my extremities still intact) and just the thought of what he did gives me the shivers. Power tools running at 10 to 30,000 RPM demand 100% of your attention and a lapse of even an instant can be devastating. Seems he's not real good at either woodworking or baseball, but he certainly gets an "A" for persistence, his story is sort of inspirational.   Hobbyist woodworker myself for many years, with all the tools. Table saws can be the most dangerous thing to use and do take your full attention, from the set up to final cut and clean up. But we finally agree on something. That gives me shivers, for lack of a better word. Kinda reminds me of "For The Love Of The Game."(?) Think that's the name of the movie about the pitcher tossing a perfect game. But I don't see how that makes him not real good at the hobby. Mistakes happen, and it's not always because of a lapse of attention. It's his hobby, not his profession.
October 9, 201311 yr Hobbyist woodworker myself for many years, with all the tools. Table saws can be the most dangerous thing to use and do take your full attention, from the set up to final cut and clean up. But we finally agree on something. That gives me shivers, for lack of a better word. Kinda reminds me of "For The Love Of The Game."(?) Think that's the name of the movie about the pitcher tossing a perfect game. But I don't see how that makes him not real good at the hobby. Mistakes happen, and it's not always because of a lapse of attention. It's his hobby, not his profession. Actually, we've agreed about a lot of things over the past 5 years. But, I'll stick with my opinion that he's not much of a woodworker. From what I read about him and the accident, he won't use a table saw. Understandable, I guess. He has his wife make table saw cuts. She's probably not wild about table saws, either. Making MLB money, I'm surprised he didn't own a SawStop saw. The thing ceases running when it detects a change in conductivity, which I think boils down to moisture -- you know, like blood. They're expensive, but you keep your extremities when you make a mistake. Cool video of a SawStop saw stopping dead when it nicks a hot dog: http://www.sawstop.com/how-it-works/videos/
October 9, 201311 yr Author Oh, gawd. Old guys arguing about woodwork. Â Â More interesting than some of the Marlins talk on the board lately.
October 9, 201311 yr What's going on here?  We're talking about how woodworking is a game changer because it replaces carpentry in the lineup.
October 9, 201311 yr Since this topic has the word 'Hill' in it, let me add that Perry Hill has added WHIP to his list of useless stats that don't mean anything. His current argument: you don't hear about them during the playoffs because they aren't needed to win in the playoffs (or some other asinine shit)
October 9, 201311 yr What's going on here? We're talking about how woodworking is a game changer because it replaces carpentry in the lineup.Matt Carpentry?
October 9, 201311 yr What's going on here? We're talking about how woodworking is a game changer because it replaces carpentry in the lineup.Matt Carpentry?   No, David Carpentry.
October 9, 201311 yr Oh, gawd. Old guys arguing about woodwork.   More interesting than some of the Marlins talk on the board lately.  LOL True. Some are just more productive than others. That's not to say any are bad.
October 9, 201311 yr Hobbyist woodworker myself for many years, with all the tools. Table saws can be the most dangerous thing to use and do take your full attention, from the set up to final cut and clean up. But we finally agree on something. That gives me shivers, for lack of a better word. Kinda reminds me of "For The Love Of The Game."(?) Think that's the name of the movie about the pitcher tossing a perfect game. But I don't see how that makes him not real good at the hobby. Mistakes happen, and it's not always because of a lapse of attention. It's his hobby, not his profession. Actually, we've agreed about a lot of things over the past 5 years. But, I'll stick with my opinion that he's not much of a woodworker. From what I read about him and the accident, he won't use a table saw. Understandable, I guess. He has his wife make table saw cuts. She's probably not wild about table saws, either. Making MLB money, I'm surprised he didn't own a SawStop saw. The thing ceases running when it detects a change in conductivity, which I think boils down to moisture -- you know, like blood. They're expensive, but you keep your extremities when you make a mistake. Cool video of a SawStop saw stopping dead when it nicks a hot dog: http://www.sawstop.com/how-it-works/videos/   Can't say I use my table saw that much. Occasionally when I have to cut down stock lengths into many smaller of the same size. SawStop is a very nice product, but more of an over-buy for me. Guess it depends on what kind of woodworking you are into.
October 9, 201311 yr Since this topic has the word 'Hill' in it, let me add that Perry Hill has added WHIP to his list of useless stats that don't mean anything. His current argument: you don't hear about them during the playoffs because they aren't needed to win in the playoffs (or some other asinine s***)  Having a higher WAR or lower WHIP doesn't mean you cruise through the playoffs, sure. Mostly because all the teams at that point are very good. GETTING TO the playoffs however, that's another story. And jesus I wish people wouldn't be so defensive about them. No one is demanding that coaches stop teaching and gm's have no actual work to do short of handing out 5 million per WAR point or whatever. All people are saying is pay attention to these things. It's not magic.
October 9, 201311 yr Since this topic has the word 'Hill' in it, let me add that Perry Hill has added WHIP to his list of useless stats that don't mean anything. His current argument: you don't hear about them during the playoffs because they aren't needed to win in the playoffs (or some other asinine s***)  Having a higher WAR or lower WHIP doesn't mean you cruise through the playoffs, sure. Mostly because all the teams at that point are very good. GETTING TO the playoffs however, that's another story. And jesus I wish people wouldn't be so defensive about them. No one is demanding that coaches stop teaching and gm's have no actual work to do short of handing out 5 million per WAR point or whatever. All people are saying is pay give some attention to these things. It's not magic.  No, actually some respected veterans of this board have argued in effect that stats are the only meaningful way to evaluate players.
October 9, 201311 yr Oh, gawd. Old guys arguing about woodwork.   No one is arguing.  You and I are.
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