Posted February 12, 201411 yr Remember this? When I said 1/2 or more of the 25-man would be gone in a year? http://marlinsbaseball.com/threads/4-25-post-game.69830/page-2#post-1418870 Some (but not Admin) doubted it. Here's the 25-man as of 4/26/13: Olivo GONE Green GONE Pierre GONE Kearns GONE Coghlan GONE Qualls GONE Nolasco GONE Valaika GONE Polanco GONE LeBlanc GONE Rauch GONE Ruggiano GONE Sanabia GONE Mahoney GONE Webb GONE Slowey GONE - later resigned as FA to Marlins MiLB - not on 40-man Brantly GONE - sent down to Marlins MiLB - still on 40-man Solano Koehler Cishek Stanton Fernandez Dobbs Ramos Dunn Turns out I was wrong, 17 of the then-active 25 are gone, I guessed 14 would be gone. Only 8 guys, 10 counting Brantly and Slowey from that 25-man are still in the organization. I was right that less than 10 guys were "guaranteed" to be here this year. Maybe 6 are locks for this year. Gotta love it. 76% of that 4/26/13 25-man are history. At the time, there were also: Morrison (DL) GONE Kotchman (DL) GONE Hechavarria (DL) Alvarez (DL) Eovaldi (DL) Mathis (DL) Turner (MiLB) - not yet called up Yelich (MiLB) - not yet called up Marisnick (MiLB) - not yet called up Ozuna (MiLB) - not yet called up Lots and lots of turnover. Of the larger group of 35, about half are still here, about half gone. A good thing considering what was on the 25 and 40-man rosters about a year ago.
February 12, 201411 yr To get this straight, you wanted to keep all those scrubs? Or did you want to upgrade them?
February 12, 201411 yr And while im not saying its a worst to first change, its that much turnover that has me excited for this year. We may not be a contender but we are definitely not the same team as last year.
February 12, 201411 yr I think the worst thing is that we got nothing for Nolasco of note. The rest of those guys were stopgaps because Loria didn't want to pay for quality (Polanco, Pierre) or veterans/AAA filler getting league minimum.
February 12, 201411 yr Excited to see what's in store. A lot could go right... And a lot could go wrong...
February 12, 201411 yr Author And while im not saying its a worst to first change, its that much turnover that has me excited for this year. We may not be a contender but we are definitely not the same team as last year. Exactly. And there may now be enough pop in the line-up to go along with great pitching (assuming that it doesn't fall apart) to turn it into a much better season than most expect. Who knows? Marmol might even figure out where the strike zone is. Watching last year's "highlight" games is just depressing. This year can't possibly be anywhere near that bad because the worst of the feckless are gone. Not all of them, but maybe enough of them to wind up with a significantly better result.
February 13, 201411 yr I wonder if Ruggiano trade had anything to do with Tino Martinez. Remember hearing Ruggiano was involved.
February 13, 201411 yr Garrett jones, salty, and furcal vs. nick green, Brantley, and kotchman. Hmm.....decisions decisions.
February 13, 201411 yr Anyone else trying to figure out what the point of this thread is? Isn't it obvious? ... is trying to stroke his ego over something unimportant and negligible while also defend Jeffrey Loria at the same time.
February 13, 201411 yr "Some (but not Admin) doubted it." I like how some = one. Seriously, the only person who quoted that post was squall and he didn't even say you were wrong. ... is definitely Samson.
February 14, 201411 yr So... kudos for filling a roster with awfulness and then getting rid of them. :gomiamib
February 14, 201411 yr I don't get it...was it any secret that The Marlins were gonna be really bad? When teams are bad you tend to replace the players So what????
February 14, 201411 yr Isn't it obvious? ... is trying to stroke his ego over something unimportant and negligible while also defend Jeffrey Loria at the same time. Sounds like you. Less the Loria portion.
February 14, 201411 yr Sounds like you. Less the Loria portion. That's a dumb thing to say. I never pat myself on the back when I'm proven to be right on something after time has passed.
February 14, 201411 yr I just think of that 1-8 start last year. *shudders*....guys, last year sucked.
February 14, 201411 yr Also the marlins played 28 games in which they lost by giving up less than 3 runs. Now last year I said if we can score 5 a game we would win a bunch. If they scored FOUR in those 28 games , add that to 62 and you guessed it, we would have tied with the reds for the second wild card spot. I hope this makes us feel better considering that yes, we have improved our offense and showcases how dismal our offense was last year. Pitching doesn't need to be better this year, just needs to be as consistent.
February 14, 201411 yr Marlins last year had very good pitching but couldn't scoreat the Mustang Ranch The weakest hitting lineup in Marlins history and I have been watching them since day 1... Giancarlo injuries had a lot to do with it
February 14, 201411 yr Author Aw, geez, some people are never satisfied. I was pondering the turnover and remembered that I had said something about that back in April last year. So, I looked it up: "Look on the bright side -- 1/2 or more of the current 25-man roster won't be here a year from now." Could be up to 19 of 25 gone if Solano and Koehler don't make the team. 17, 18, 19, doesn't matter, it's all a good thing, relatively speaking. I'm certainly not defending Loria. He was clearly much more responsible for last year than this year. And we're still stuck with Dobbs, who is apparently the left-handed version of Helms, for 1.7 mill. What a giant bargain he is now that we have a ton of other veteran, good "club-house" guys like Furcal, McGehee, Baker, Jones, Saltalamacchia, Bogusevic and Marmol. Whatever would we do without Dobbs? Does he have pictures? And, no, I'm not Samson. But, I did stay in a Holiday Inn at some point maybe 30 years ago.
February 14, 201411 yr Whatever would we do without Dobbs? Does he have pictures? Speaking of Greg Dobbs and photo blackmail, anybody else absolutely convinced Dobbs is gay? Like, it's totally obvious. Not that there's anything wrong with it. Sorry for being off topic. Back to baseball, I have no problems with Dobbs being on this team. The good thing is this year he won't have to focus on getting consistent playing time. He is almost exclusively a pinch hitter on this team, and that's what he's best at. If he doesn't hit, just release him.
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