Mets fan here.  (hope that's OK).

 

I thought I'd tell you a bit about who you got.    Merandy is a nice prospect.   BA"s mid season ranking put him at #8 on the Mets top 10 and MLB's mid season at #9 ahead of former first round pick Cecchini and masher and 2nd round pick Alonso.     He's not going to sniff anyone's top 100 list, he's not close to that, but he's a nice prospect having a great year.   He touches 97 and the general sense is that he's a future back of the rotation starter.    It hurts a little to give him up cause future starters are essential to today's game and he has a decent shot at being one.     He also needs to be added to your 40 and protected this rule 5.   (international signings often need to be protected early).    AA in 2018 should be a better test and he could be starting game for you in 2019 if things break well.

 

Ricky Cespedes (no relation) was the top dollar international signing by the Mets in 2013.    They had to wait till he turned 16 on August 24 to sign him for $725,000.   He was a 6'2 skinny kid who had lots of tools but needed work.   He played a good CF (BA praised him in GCL for his glove in 2015).   Last year he put up a good average for Kingsport but no power and not enough walks, so it was a very empty .322   He also put on enough weight where his future in CF is uncertain and RF might be more likely.     I wouldn't pay attention to his stats this year cause he's been dealing with injuries and it's not enough ABs.    The tools are there.   He's got some glove, some speed, some arm, good athleticism and a lowish K rate/good contact and the power might come, but he needs time.    Still very raw.   Turns 20 next month.      He's a lottery ticket who was signed more for his good body and athleticism than his ability to hit a baseball.   Has the ceiling of starting RF but the floor of a guy who never makes past AA.

 

If you wanted more, I totally get that, but you got 2 players I liked and watched with interest.

 

 

 

Mets fan here.  (hope that's OK).

 

I thought I'd tell you a bit about who you got.    Merandy is a nice prospect.   BA"s mid season ranking put him at #8 and MLB's mid season at #9 ahead of former first round pick Cecchini and masher and 2nd round pick Alonso.     He's not going to sniff anyone's top 100 list, he's not close to that, but he's a nice prospect having a great year.   He touches 97 and the general sense is that he's a future back of the rotation starter.    It hurts a little to give him up cause future starters are essential to today's game and he has a decent shot at being one.     AA next season will be a better test for him.     He also needs to be added to your 40 and protected this rule 5.   (international signings often need to be protected early).    AA in 2018, could be starting game for you in 2019 if things break well.

 

Ricky Cespedes (no relation) was the top dollar international signing by the Mets in 2013.    They had to wait till he turned 16 on August 24 to sign him for $725,000.   He was a 6'2 skinny kid who had lots of tools but needed work.   He played a good CF (BA praised him in GCL for his glove in 2015).   Last year he put up a good average for Kingsport but no power and not enough walks, so it was a very empty .322   He also put on enough weight where his future in CF is uncertain and RF might be more likely.     I wouldn't pay attention to his stats this year cause he's been dealing with injuries and it's not enough ABs.    The tools are there.   He's got some glove, some speed, some arm, good athleticism and a lowish K rate/good contact and the power might come, but he needs time.    Still very raw.   Turns 20 next month.      He's a lottery ticket who was signed more for his good body and athleticism than his ability to hit a baseball.   Has the ceiling of starting RF but the floor of a guy who never makes past AA.

 

If you wanted more, I totally get that, but you got 2 players I liked and watched with interest.

 

 

Cespedes is your typical Mike Hill toolsy outfielder acquisition that never pans out. 

 

 

Mets fan here.  .

 

 

Admin?

 

 

Mets fan here.  (hope that's OK).

 

I thought I'd tell you a bit about who you got.    Merandy is a nice prospect.   BA"s mid season ranking put him at #8 and MLB's mid season at #9 ahead of former first round pick Cecchini and masher and 2nd round pick Alonso.     He's not going to sniff anyone's top 100 list, he's not close to that, but he's a nice prospect having a great year.   He touches 97 and the general sense is that he's a future back of the rotation starter.    It hurts a little to give him up cause future starters are essential to today's game and he has a decent shot at being one.     AA next season will be a better test for him.     He also needs to be added to your 40 and protected this rule 5.   (international signings often need to be protected early).    AA in 2018, could be starting game for you in 2019 if things break well.

 

Ricky Cespedes (no relation) was the top dollar international signing by the Mets in 2013.    They had to wait till he turned 16 on August 24 to sign him for $725,000.   He was a 6'2 skinny kid who had lots of tools but needed work.   He played a good CF (BA praised him in GCL for his glove in 2015).   Last year he put up a good average for Kingsport but no power and not enough walks, so it was a very empty .322   He also put on enough weight where his future in CF is uncertain and RF might be more likely.     I wouldn't pay attention to his stats this year cause he's been dealing with injuries and it's not enough ABs.    The tools are there.   He's got some glove, some speed, some arm, good athleticism and a lowish K rate/good contact and the power might come, but he needs time.    Still very raw.   Turns 20 next month.      He's a lottery ticket who was signed more for his good body and athleticism than his ability to hit a baseball.   Has the ceiling of starting RF but the floor of a guy who never makes past AA.

 

If you wanted more, I totally get that, but you got 2 players I liked and watched with interest.

 

 

Thanks for this! 

 

 

Who cares about where he slots in our system? Our system is trash.

 

Erick, are we in a rebuild or are we trying to win next year?

 

I'll answer that for you. 

 

We're in a rebuild.  In fact, we're in like Stage 1 of a rebuild.  

 

So we have to start somewhere.

 

Our farm system is 10 times better than it was 2 months ago.

 

 

Erick, are we in a rebuild or are we trying to win next year?

 

I'll answer that for you. 

 

We're in a rebuild.  In fact, we're in like Stage 1 of a rebuild.  

 

So we have to start somewhere.

 

Our farm system is 10 times better than it was 2 months ago.

 

So, should we have a fire sale? Because if we have no intention of getting assets for next year in these deals for established relievers, we're doing a disservice to established core players like Stanton, Yelich, Ozuna, Realmuto, Bour...and if you want to include Dee in that too. Should we trade all of those guys too? What's the point of keeping these guys if we're just entering stage 1 of another 2-3 year rebuild? Let's do what the White Sox are doing if that's the case. I'd be fine with that for what it's worth. Right now, I'm not sure what the direction is.

 

The Ramos trade seems like, more than anything, a salary dump. I have a tough time believing this was the best offer. And if it was, there was still a couple more days to figure it out.

 

 

So, should we have a fire sale? Because if we have no intention of getting assets for next year in these deals for established relievers, we're doing a disservice to established core players like Stanton, Yelich, Ozuna, Realmuto, Bour...and if you want to include Dee in that too. Should we trade all of those guys too? What's the point of keeping these guys if we're just entering stage 1 of another 2-3 year rebuild? Let's do what the White Sox are doing if that's the case. I'd be fine with that for what it's worth. Right now, I'm not sure what the direction is.

 

The Ramos trade seems like, more than anything, a salary dump. I have a tough time believing this was the best offer. And if it was, there was still a couple more days to figure it out.

 

Your question is a contradiction.  Not because it's not logical but rather the point of either a fire sale or trading for the future is not reflective 

 

Adding back end starters is not a recipe for success. And if have a fire sale it will only get worse knowing that Hamburger Hill will be adding parts and not cornerstones. 

 

This is my first post in some time  my last post from last year was deleted.  A rant of the trades we made at the deadline that sunk the ship and maybe the future of this team  

 

 

So, should we have a fire sale? Because if we have no intention of getting assets for next year in these deals for established relievers, we're doing a disservice to established core players like Stanton, Yelich, Ozuna, Realmuto, Bour...and if you want to include Dee in that too. Should we trade all of those guys too? What's the point of keeping these guys if we're just entering stage 1 of another 2-3 year rebuild? Let's do what the White Sox are doing if that's the case. I'd be fine with that for what it's worth. Right now, I'm not sure what the direction is.

 

The Ramos trade seems like, more than anything, a salary dump. I have a tough time believing this was the best offer. And if it was, there was still a couple more days to figure it out.

 

As annoying as it is to say, yes, we should have a FIRE SALE. 

 

It's the only shot this team has at making the playoffs within the next 3-6 years. 

 

 

Your question is a contradiction.  Not because it's not logical but rather the point of either a fire sale or trading for the future is not reflectiving. 

 

Adding back end starters is not a recipe for success. And if have a fire sale it will only get worse knowing that Hamburger Hill will just being adding parts and not cornerstones. 

 

This is my first post in some time  my last post from last year was deleted.  A rant of the trades we made at the deadline that sunk the ship and maybe the future of this team  

 

Welcome back, Jeffrey.

 

You heard that Loria is selling the team, right?

 

So we can't look at the next fire sale (rebuild) and say it will end up like the last one.

 

 

Welcome back, Jeffrey.

 

You heard that Loria is selling the team, right?

 

So we can't look at the next fire sale (rebuild) and say it will end up like the last one.

 

Indeed. I'm all for making the team better.  Even if it be a fire sale.  Just not under this management. 

 

You don't make trades just to make trades.  It's evident that Hillbilly does just that .

 

Traded Josh Naylor (minors), Carter Capps, Luis Castillo and Jarred Cosart to the San Diego Padres. Received Andrew Cashner, Tayron Guerrero, Colin Rea and cash. 

 

Traded Chris Paddack (minors) to the San Diego Padres. Received Fernando Rodney.

 

Lost Brand Hand on waivers as well.

 

 

Very odd to see Ramos go to the Mets. Did  not expect that at all. I think they could have done a little better. Never a fan of in division trades.

 

Gonzalez looks like a solid prospect. Could be in AA soon. 

 

 

Admin?

 

For some reason I'm starting to think that Bald Eagle is him

 

 

So whatever happened to Admin? 

 

 

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I think the Mets could trade Ramos on Monday and get a better deal than Mike Hill got today.

 

 

If this was the best deal then you hold onto him. He's not a rental. Not good value.

 

 

Damn couldn't we have traded him out of the NL East?

 

 

Damn couldn't we have traded him out of the NL East?

 

It will actually work on our favor if he comes to pitch in the 9th inning with the lead in a saving situation

 

 

Actually I was very doubtful before the trades, but somehow FO has focused on stacking up minor depth and it seems it's working.

 

 

Marlins probably traded Ramos to the Mets sonstanton can still see his friend 24 times a year. 

 

Im okay with it. 

 

 

I don't know what Merandy Gonzalez would do in the majors (if he made it to the majors),but I know what Ramos would do in the majors…

 

 

I don't know what Merandy Gonzalez would do in the majors (if he made it to the majors),but I know what Ramos would do in the majors…

 

Please finish the sentence. What would Ramos do in the majors? Be horrible and blow a whole bunch of games because he's a below average closer like you said right? 

 

 

I think so many times negative reactions to a trade come from what we as fans think we could have gotten for a certain player and the truth isn't always the same.

 

Maybe these two prospects are truly the best return we could have gotten for Ramos.

 

With that said it's fair to question Mike Hill due to all his past failures but the point is we never really know everything about how any trade negotiations go down. 

 

 

 

 

To be a sports fan,the most suck feeling would be you just couldn't do anything to any change of the team.