June 7, 20188 yr Acquired in Stanton deal. Having a bad day?.....lmao j/k man Decisions like keeping guzman and Alcantara down make me think the team is tanking on purpose. but then other times they make me think they try to win but just suck. Super annoying season!
June 7, 20188 yr Author Decisions like keeping guzman and Alcantara down make me think the team is tanking on purpose. but then other times they make me think they try to win but just suck. Sandy I can understand wanting up but Guzman is in Single-A. He shouldn't be up.
June 7, 20188 yr Having a bad day?.....lmao j/k man Decisions like keeping guzman and Alcantara down make me think the team is tanking on purpose. but then other times they make me think they try to win but just suck. Super annoying season! Guzman is in A+ ball and has never pitched in a full season league. Also, i keep hearing this clamoring for Alcantara to be brought up and I think people weirdly are having expectations for him that are way too high. I think he has a chance to be a good #2 but I hope people havent been misconstrued to value him as a top prospect along the lines of Kopech or Buehler or someone like that. It is reasonable that we arent rushing guys up in a lost season. Alcantara has made huge strides since the beginning of the year but let him keep going deep into games and hopefully try to improve his K rate some more and then bring him up when we deal guys away towards the deadline. Our rotation isnt setting the world on fire but we also weirdly have a lot of options to where we dont have to rush these guys for no reason to the majors. Im a fan of aggressively promoting guys once they master the level they are at, but with promotions to the majors on a team that is rebuilding it makes no sense to promote guys to the big leagues unless they are 100% ready and will stay up indefinitely. Different story for a contender, but for our team we are doing the right thing while developing these pitchers.
June 7, 20188 yr The thing with Guzman seems similar to the questions for Alcantara somewhat coming into the year, that being that he has suspect control and his ability to consistently go deep into games is a question mark. Alcantara has answered a lot of the questions thus far as he's walking a lot fewer guys and he has been going deep into games, but Guzman has been a little concerning with the walks. It is super early though. He'll be 22 all year and has never pitched in a full season league and has never thrown more than 66 innings in a season. A successful season for him is staying healthy the rest of the way and improving the walk rate. I think we made out as well as we could have with the Stanton trade in that he had a NTC, a list of 4 teams he wanted to go to and only 1-2 who really wanted him, plus obviously his contract. Sucks to give him up but we cant survive a contract like that if he becomes like most of those contracts become towards the end, plus Devers and Guzman have both been kind of encouraging
June 7, 20188 yr Guzman was just added to the FSL all-star team, might eventually be the best player they get in all the trades, way too soon to be talking Major League promotion, hoping to see the Hammerheads next week and be able to give a better assessment of his ablilty
June 7, 20188 yr Wait we got something for Stanton? I thought Jeter just dumped him as a favor to the Yankees and to purposely hurt the Marlins fanbase and got nothing but trash in return?
June 7, 20188 yr Sandy I can understand wanting up but Guzman is in Single-A. He shouldn't be up. he can't stay in bed all day, you sicko you
June 7, 20188 yr We've accumulated all of these arms since the middle of last year when we traded away Ramos and Phelps. They are all pitching well or extremely well and are either young or the right age for their league. Pablo Lopez has been very dominant in AA and was just promoted to AAA. Nick Neidert is also having an impressive season and he is the youngest of the bunch. Sandy Alcantara AAA 22 yrs old (Ozuna Trade) Zac Gallen AAA 22 yrs old (Ozuna Trade) Pablo Lopez AAA 22 yrs old (Phelps Trade) Robert Dugger AA 22 yrs old (Gordon Trade) Merandy Gonzalez AA 22 yrs old (Ramos Trade) Nick Neidert AA 21 yrs old (Gordon Trade) Jorge Guzman A+ 22 yrs old (Stanton Trade) Jordan Yamamoto A+ 22 yrs old (Yelich Trade) Then we have our own draft picks or international signings starting to develop as well. Braxton Garrett A- 20 yrs old (T J Rehab) 1st round pick 2016 Trevor Rogers A- 20 yrs old 1st round pick 2017 Edward Cabrera A- 18 yrs old INT FA Brady Puckett A+ 22 yrs old 2017 Draft Pick Tyler Kolek A- 22 yrs old ( I know, I know) 1st round pick 2015 Ryan Lillie A- 22 yrs old ( Just turned 22 in May. Probably be in A+ soon) Trevor Richards AAA 25 yrs old Indy League Jarlin Garcia AAA 25 yrs old INT FA Dillon Peters AAA 25 yrs old 2014 Draft Pick Needless to say that there is plenty of depth right now up and down the system. Not sure if there is a true #1 in that bunch but there are plenty of good young arms.
June 7, 20188 yr Acquired in Stanton deal. Consider this your first warning out of at least eighty six or so, I won't be keeping count. No positive posting. Also, it doesn't matter, cause he was acquired when we got rid of Stanton for nothing. Therefore Guzman is nothing. If he's so good then why couldn't we have kept Stanton and acquired Guzman with all that extra money we have?!?!?!?!
June 7, 20188 yr We've accumulated all of these arms since the middle of last year when we traded away Ramos and Phelps. They are all pitching well or extremely well and are either young or the right age for their league. Pablo Lopez has been very dominant in AA and was just promoted to AAA. Nick Neidert is also having an impressive season and he is the youngest of the bunch. Sandy Alcantara AAA 22 yrs old (Ozuna Trade) Zac Gallen AAA 22 yrs old (Ozuna Trade) Pablo Lopez AAA 22 yrs old (Phelps Trade) Robert Dugger AA 22 yrs old (Gordon Trade) Merandy Gonzalez AA 22 yrs old (Ramos Trade) Nick Neidert AA 21 yrs old (Gordon Trade) Jorge Guzman A+ 22 yrs old (Stanton Trade) Jordan Yamamoto A+ 22 yrs old (Yelich Trade) Then we have our own draft picks or international signings starting to develop as well. Braxton Garrett A- 20 yrs old (T J Rehab) 1st round pick 2016 Trevor Rogers A- 20 yrs old 1st round pick 2017 Edward Cabrera A- 18 yrs old INT FA Brady Puckett A+ 22 yrs old 2017 Draft Pick Tyler Kolek A- 22 yrs old ( I know, I know) 1st round pick 2015 Ryan Lillie A- 22 yrs old ( Just turned 22 in May. Probably be in A+ soon) Trevor Richards AAA 25 yrs old Indy League Jarlin Garcia AAA 25 yrs old INT FA Dillon Peters AAA 25 yrs old 2014 Draft Pick Needless to say that there is plenty of depth right now up and down the system. Not sure if there is a true #1 in that bunch but there are plenty of good young arms. Outside of Kolek and perhaps a couple others, definitely a lot of hope in there. If half from each of those lists pans out, that'd be fantastic.
June 7, 20188 yr We've accumulated all of these arms since the middle of last year when we traded away Ramos and Phelps. They are all pitching well or extremely well and are either young or the right age for their league. Pablo Lopez has been very dominant in AA and was just promoted to AAA. Nick Neidert is also having an impressive season and he is the youngest of the bunch. Sandy Alcantara AAA 22 yrs old (Ozuna Trade) Zac Gallen AAA 22 yrs old (Ozuna Trade) Pablo Lopez AAA 22 yrs old (Phelps Trade) Robert Dugger AA 22 yrs old (Gordon Trade) Merandy Gonzalez AA 22 yrs old (Ramos Trade) Nick Neidert AA 21 yrs old (Gordon Trade) Jorge Guzman A+ 22 yrs old (Stanton Trade) Jordan Yamamoto A+ 22 yrs old (Yelich Trade) Then we have our own draft picks or international signings starting to develop as well. Braxton Garrett A- 20 yrs old (T J Rehab) 1st round pick 2016 Trevor Rogers A- 20 yrs old 1st round pick 2017 Edward Cabrera A- 18 yrs old INT FA Brady Puckett A+ 22 yrs old 2017 Draft Pick Tyler Kolek A- 22 yrs old ( I know, I know) 1st round pick 2015 Ryan Lillie A- 22 yrs old ( Just turned 22 in May. Probably be in A+ soon) Trevor Richards AAA 25 yrs old Indy League Jarlin Garcia AAA 25 yrs old INT FA Dillon Peters AAA 25 yrs old 2014 Draft Pick Needless to say that there is plenty of depth right now up and down the system. Not sure if there is a true #1 in that bunch but there are plenty of good young arms. But #FuckJeter right?
June 7, 20188 yr Author But #FuckJeter right? Clearly we were better off keeping that great team from last year together (that had a losing record) than doing what was done. We would be better off having a 70-75 win season this year with no hope for the future than what we did. #FuckJeter
June 7, 20188 yr Author To be fair, Jeter had nothing to do with the Ramos/Phelps trades. And he had plenty to do with the other ones aka six of the 8 guys at the top of that list. #FuckJeter Wait I'm confused on my hashtag game here.
June 7, 20188 yr But #FuckJeter right? Absolutely #FuckJeter Doesn't mean I can't be positive about the team or the teams future. Also, @Erick is right, this started last season before Jeter. And, as of right now, Pablo Lopez and Nick Neidert are having the best seasons. We got them for Dee Gordon and David Phelps. I was mainly against moving moving Stanton and Yelich. Either way, like I've said before, #GoMarlins #FuckJeter. Now lets move Castro, Straily, and Bearclaw and get some more young talent in here.
June 7, 20188 yr Clearly we were better off keeping that great team from last year together (that had a losing record) than doing what was done. We would be better off having a 70-75 win season this year with no hope for the future than what we did. #FuckJeter Yes, I would still have preferred to keep that outfield from last year together. More than one way to build a team. #nofiresales #notanking
June 7, 20188 yr You can't commend the positive things this team is doing and continue to hate the guy responsible for it. This is like flicking off your teachers at your graduation.
June 7, 20188 yr I think we have enough hope for our pitchers, my big concern is the other side of the game. Hitting. We still need to score runs. Schales is the only guy who is young and really crushing the ball. Dean is still a borderline prospect. Everyone else is just kind of okay. Maybe the John Silviano?
June 7, 20188 yr To be fair, Jeter had nothing to do with the Ramos/Phelps trades. #ThankYouMikeHill All joking aside the team was up for sale by the time those two were traded. With all the heresay about ownership meddling in deals I wonder if those trades were more of a reflection of Hill than the ones before Loria decided to sell.
June 7, 20188 yr All joking aside the team was up for sale by the time those two were traded. With all the heresay about ownership meddling in deals I wonder if those trades were more of a reflection of Hill than the ones before Loria decided to sell. With all we know about HIll we can only be so mad at the guy. He did suggest blowing up the team after the death of Fernandez. He did not like the idea of signing inferior closers once we didn't get the guys we wanted. He was held on given a somewhat overseer role after they brought in Denbo. For me I am not a Hill fan, but I am not sure he is bad at his job.
June 7, 20188 yr For me I am not a Hill fan, but I am not sure he is bad at his job. Too early to say but in the time since Loria's departure there sure have been a lot more signs of Hill being better than we thought than not.
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