Admin Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 What would you say was the best trade in franchise history? and... What would you say was the worst trade in franchise history? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 The best trade would happen in the upcoming off-season, the worst trade would never happen … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 The Cabrera one has to be in the running for worst, no? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFishFan Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 31 minutes ago, rmc523 said: The Cabrera one has to be in the running for worst, no? Absolutely. That’s the first one that will always come to mind when you mention worst trade in Marlins history. Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis for Camron Maybin, Andrew Miller, Mike Rabelo?, Eulogio de la Cruz?, Dallas Trahern?, and Burke Badenhop. I can understand Willis, even though he was a big fan favorite, he had struggled the previous two seasons since coming off his 22 win season in ‘05. But with trading Cabrera and Willis, I was really expecting at least Curtis Granderson (Who batted .302 with 23 HR and led the majors with 23 triples that previous season in ‘07). I was so disappointed reading the news of that trade and seeing the players the Marlins got in return. And years later all I remember from those players is Andrew Miller not being a good pitcher while he was here, Cameron Maybin never living up to his potential and Burke Badenhop had a funny name. I don’t even remember the other players at all. The best trade for me was when the Marlins traded for Jeff Conine on August 31, 2003. Since it was past the trading deadline it was very unexpected and last minute, but it definitely made an impact having Mr Marlin back and the Marlins went on to win their second World Series. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish53 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Then there was the trade that can be described as one of the best and worst at the same time. Gary Sheffield coming here to be a catalyst for the 97 championship. The opposite is we traded a young Trevor Hoffman who would go on to the hall of fame. Yet, it was a trade that both sides won. We would never have kept Hoffman in the sell off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofthefish Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I would include the Sheffield trade among the best trade. I would look at several that were made in the aftermath of the 1997 championship, trades that brought in Derrek Lee, A.J. Burnett, Brad Penny, Braden Looper and Mike Lowell, whom years later he'd be flipped to get Hanley and Anibal. The 2002 trades that brought in Willis, Pavano, Mordecai and Encarnacion should be in the better trades. Recently the deal to get Rojas and Dee worked out pretty good for the Fish. Worst trade definitely Cabrera, but I'd add the Yelich deal along with the Stanton trade. I'd also throw in trading Johan Santana away as a worst trade candidate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 One of the worst that people never seem to bring up was that trade for Andrew Cashner and Colin Rea. Good God almighty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 20 hours ago, SirFishFan said: But with trading Cabrera and Willis, I was really expecting at least Curtis Granderson (Who batted .302 with 23 HR and led the majors with 23 triples that previous season in ‘07). I believe, and could be wrong, that the Tigers offered Granderson and Verlander for Willis after 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Mike Lowell best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, Iowa said: Mike Lowell best Both coming and going, really. Brought him in and he was huge in the second title. Traded away with Beckett and got us Hanley and Anibal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFishFan Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Michael said: I believe, and could be wrong, that the Tigers offered Granderson and Verlander for Willis after 2005. I just looked it up and yes the Tigers reportedly offered Granderson and Verlander for Willis after the ‘05 season when Dontrelle won 22 games. Most likely Loria/Samson/Beinfest were hoping that Dontrelle would continue with some more 20 win seasons in the next few years, and at that time Granderson and Verlander were still young and inexperienced players so I can understand why they didn’t make that trade. But imagine how much more fun that ‘06 season would have been with Granderson in CF instead of Reggie Abercrombie and a starting rotation of Josh Johnson, Ricky Nolasco, Anibal Sanchez, Justin Verlander(who ended up going 17-9 for the Tigers in ‘06) and Scott Olsen/Brian Moehler. 😂😂😂😂😂 Not that it means the Marlins would have necessarily won a lot of more games that year if they had made that trade. And knowing the Marlins, probably Granderson and Verlander would have been traded away in 2-3 years anyways. But it’s still fun to think about it. 😂 Edited September 10, 2021 by SirFishFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piazza31 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I remain steadfast in my belief the Mike Piazza, Todd Zeile / CJ, Sheff , Bonilla, Eisenrich, Barrios trade was the most significant trade in Marlins history and that the absolute worst trade is the Cabrera trade. Research the Trade tree from the Piazza deal / CJ Draft selection and you'll see that it had the biggest impact on two world series championships, playoff runs and franchise leaders. If I remember correctly, there are still players on the current day roster that transactions can be traced back to the Piazza trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piazza31 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Piazza31 said: I remain steadfast in my belief the Mike Piazza, Todd Zeile / CJ, Sheff , Bonilla, Eisenrich, Barrios trade was the most significant trade in Marlins history and that the absolute worst trade is the Cabrera trade. Research the Trade tree from the Piazza deal / CJ Draft selection and you'll see that it had the biggest impact on two world series championships, playoff runs and franchise leaders. If I remember correctly, there are still players on the current day roster that transactions can be traced back to the Piazza trade. Off the top of my head. CJ Piazza Yarnell , Preston Wilson Yarnell for Lowell , Preston Wilson for Juan Pierre Juan Pierre for Ricky Nolasco , Sergio Mitre, Reynel Pinto Mike Lowell for Hanley Ramirez and Anibal Sanchez Hanley for Nathan Evoldi and Anibal for Rob Brantly and Jacob Turner Evoldi for Phelps / Martin Prado Phelps for Pablo Lopez 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 18 hours ago, Piazza31 said: Off the top of my head. CJ Piazza Yarnell , Preston Wilson Yarnell for Lowell , Preston Wilson for Juan Pierre Juan Pierre for Ricky Nolasco , Sergio Mitre, Reynel Pinto Mike Lowell for Hanley Ramirez and Anibal Sanchez Hanley for Nathan Evoldi and Anibal for Rob Brantly and Jacob Turner Evoldi for Phelps / Martin Prado Phelps for Pablo Lopez Wow, that's awesome. Thanks Rain Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piazza31 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 20 hours ago, Iowa said: Wow, that's awesome. Thanks Rain Man This could be us, but your playin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 The Yelich trade has to be top 2 dumbest trades in Marlins history, tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Though the Ozuna one could end up being a top 5 trade in franchise history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, Das Texan said: Though the Ozuna one could end up being a top 5 trade in franchise history. Easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener1970 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Cabrera and Willis is bad in retrospect, but we have the benefit of the fullness of time to make that determination. The worst trade is that whole series of trades where we kept trying to dump Luis Castillo (P) until we succeeded. The Marlins were in a position, and this predates, at least the first time, Jose's tragic death, to have Jose pitching before Luis. Even with Castillo's poor season this season, the trade was just wrong headed from it's very conception Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricOwens! Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Yelich is the worst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 hours ago, EricOwens! said: Yelich is the worst I know he's had an off couple of years but come on, man, you're being harsh on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 8 hours ago, EricOwens! said: Yelich is the worst Yamamoto is the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 The Yelich trade may end up being the worst, which I would never have expected after the Cabrera trade Yamamoto's already gone, from what I hear Harrison is probably done after this year, which just leaves Diaz and Brinson. Both have been awful at the MLB level. No indication whatsoever that any of these guys stick in MLB at all. At least Miller eventually figured it out, and while Maybin did not play well with the Marlins, he has had a decent career. Add in the fact that Yelich was on a very team friendly contract, and yeah, just a disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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