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Hot Stove (2021-2022 offseason)

TaiwanMarlins
in Miami Marlins

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I'm just a fan, I'm neither an owner nor a player, I don't care what both sides say and want because that's all bullshit, I'm just waiting for the day the hot stove to restart. 

Per MLBTR, here were some of the league's proposals from the other day:

 

-In regards to the top pick in the amateur draft, the teams with the three worst records would be involved in a lottery, with the winner receiving the first overall pick.  This is similar to a previous league proposal, except this time, MLB added that a team wouldn’t be allowed to take part in the lottery for three consecutive seasons (to help address tanking).  The MLBPA has also wanted a draft lottery, except a larger process involving the eight teams with the worst records.

-A draft for international players, as opposed to the current “July 2” international signing window and bonus pool system.

-The elimination of the “Super Two” arbitration system, as players who would count as Super Two-eligible in the future would have salaries determined by a formula.  The league’s proposal offers some leeway, as players with even one day of MLB current service time would have the option of taking part in this new system or opting to remain in the old system.  Regardless of this grandfather clause for current union members, the MLBPA isn’t keen on the idea of any statistical-based calculation tied to salary, such as the league’s prior proposal to entirely eliminate the salary arbitration process.

-If a team has a top 100-ranked prospect on its Opening Day roster, and that player finishes in the top five in voting for a major award (the MVP, Cy Young, or Rookie Of The Year) during one of his arbitration-eligible seasons, the team would receive a bonus draft pick.  The idea is to provide a benefit for teams so they won’t hold back top prospects for service-time reasons, as extra playing time might help a player earn an award like the ROY as soon as possible.  According to Passan/Rogers, players have some reservations about this idea, including concerns over how the list of “top prospects” eligible would be determined.  (MLBTR’s Tim Dierkes is more bullish on the concept, as outlined in this Twitter thread.)

-An expanded playoff bracket, with 14 teams reaching the postseason.  The players have expressed an openness for a 12-team postseason in the past, though as Sportsnet’s Ben Nicholson-Smith notes, an expanded playoff is “arguably players’ biggest bargaining chip” given how much the league and the owners want that extra postseason TV revenue.

-The use of the DH in both the American and National Leagues.  The universal DH has widely been expected to be part of this CBA, and Susan Slusser of The San Francisco Chronicle writes that the players union seems agreeable to the idea as long as the universal DH isn’t “tied to something else as a bargaining chip.”

1. Make it a lottery for all teams that dont make the playoffs.    Make it to where you cannot pick top 5 two years in a row.  Take your tanking and shove it up your ass.

2. This can probably be easily agreed upon.

3. Cannot see the players going for this.  This has been a big red flag for a long time to base compensation soley on some statistical formulas.

4. I'm not really sure how this works, what list you use, and whats the point.  Will you only be eligible to win an award if you are on a MLB roster on opening day (or the IL list obviously)?  I mean players have wont ROY and not opened the season with their big league clubs....

5. I'm sure they can figure out a way to come to an agreement.  14 team playoffs is too much anyway, at least with 30 teams.  It is probably 'ok' once you expand, but I think its too watered down with 30 teams.  Still, I'm sure they will agree to soemthing on this.

6. This could have been done last year if the owners didnt try to use this as some carrot to extra playoff revenue (to not be shared with players).  Just make the rule universal DH.  Players would be fine with it.  Owners want it themselves.  Not really sure why owners want to make this an actual bargaining chip other than they think they can get one over on the players?

On 1/15/2022 at 1:51 AM, taiwanmarlin said:

We got the 44th best ...

NO....NO MORE FUCKING SOLANOS GOD DAMMIT!

3 hours ago, Michael said:

No no this one might be good, you see.

Shit, Donavan has done pretty well for himself recently too lol 

6 minutes ago, Michael said:

Has he really though? Higher average, nothing much else. He always had decent bat to ball skills.

Yeah I get what you’re saying but I’d take him over Berti at this point

7 minutes ago, Michael said:

That's reasonable, I think. Berti has more positional flexibility, but yeah, Solano probably the better choice overall.

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