Michael Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Das Texan said: What if its the politics of Bruce Sherman's cheapness... I thought that was allowed? *checks bylaws* That's not politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilverBullet Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Eury has to come up immedietaly after that super 2 deadline right? There's literally no reason to keep him down any longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovertical Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 35 minutes ago, SilverBullet said: Eury has to come up immedietaly after that super 2 deadline right? There's literally no reason to keep him down any longer. what if he has a turrible spring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Just now, hovertical said: what if he has a turrible spring? He's not making the Opening Day roster regardless because of two reasons, #1: service time manipulation, and #2: because we don't "need" him yet considering we already have 6 starting pitchers ready to go. So I don't think his spring numbers matter. If he struggles in the minors to start the year then yea hold him down longer but I think he's already on that cusp of being ready for a callup so any struggles this spring or in the minors are probably just gonna hold him down no more than a few weeks longer. My point is, it's not like he won't be up in 2023 so I don't see how they can delay it too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 48 minutes ago, SilverBullet said: Eury has to come up immedietaly after that super 2 deadline right? There's literally no reason to keep him down any longer. I think the Super 2 isn't a fixed date anymore, I could be wrong. But yeah they should just bring him up in the summer if he's doing fine in Jacksonville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovertical Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, SilverBullet said: He's not making the Opening Day roster regardless because of two reasons, #1: service time manipulation, and #2: because we don't "need" him yet considering we already have 6 starting pitchers ready to go. So I don't think his spring numbers matter. If he struggles in the minors to start the year then yea hold him down longer but I think he's already on that cusp of being ready for a callup so any struggles this spring or in the minors are probably just gonna hold him down no more than a few weeks longer. My point is, it's not like he won't be up in 2023 so I don't see how they can delay it too much. so, assuming no injuries to our current rotation, who is odd man out if he gets called up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsmaniac Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, hovertical said: so, assuming no injuries to our current rotation, who is odd man out if he gets called up? I would say Garret gets the swing man role in the bullpen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, hovertical said: so, assuming no injuries to our current rotation, who is odd man out if he gets called up? They've discussed a possible six man rotation, too. If they do it I hope they keep Sandy every fifth day at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 38 minutes ago, Michael said: I think the Super 2 isn't a fixed date anymore, I could be wrong. I don't think it ever was a fixed date. I always remember it as a calculation leading to a possible date and then teams just make sure they do their callups after that date and then after that it's fingers crossed that the guess was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, Michael said: They've discussed a possible six man rotation, too. If they do it I hope they keep Sandy every fifth day at least. I think that is a great idea.... right? Sandy every 5th day an then keep innings down on the other young guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Iowa said: I think that is a great idea.... right? Sandy every 5th day an then keep innings down on the other young guys. Yes exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 24 minutes ago, SilverBullet said: I don't think it ever was a fixed date. I always remember it as a calculation leading to a possible date and then teams just make sure they do their callups after that date and then after that it's fingers crossed that the guess was right. I thought it was always set, like once teams reached a certain games threshold. That's why Stanton and Strasburg debuted on the same day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Michael said: I thought it was always set, like once teams reached a certain games threshold. That's why Stanton and Strasburg debuted on the same day. I know there are ways that certain players can still be considered Super 2's even if they debut past that threshold, so I think there's like a less defined threshold that kinda just hopes its past the date. Something like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Eury comes out and wins or finishes 2nd for ROY and he gets a full year so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Quote The popular misconception surrounding Super Two is that there's a hard-and-fast "deadline date" after which players can be called up. In reality, this is a moving target Quote Each year at the end of the season, the Major League Baseball Players’ Union announces the cutoff for players to achieve Super Two status Quote This cutoff changes based on the number of players in the class and how much service time each has. According to Ryan Galla of sports agency CAA, the cutoff for next offseason is projected to be two years and 140 days, though that could change. Remember, we're talking about a percentage of players here, so the exact service-time cutoff isn't a constant, and that's why it's tough to pick a specific date when a player must be called up by to meet Super Two standards. We often don't know until players are in their third season. The date is set after the season ends, so it's a guess during the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydawg Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 56 minutes ago, Iowa said: I think that is a great idea.... right? Sandy every 5th day an then keep innings down on the other young guys. I hate it. You know you're going to have injuries at some point. Hopefully nothing major, but injuries none the less. Keep someone in AAA ready to go until such injury or lack of performance arrive and then call them up. There's no need to take starts away from Alcantara, Lucero, Roger's ( assuming he's pitching well), or Cueto. Cabrera might need a breather now and then to build up his innings. I hate how they coddle pitchers in today's game! Yes. I'm an old man!!! Stay off of my lawn!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 34 minutes ago, SilverBullet said: The date is set after the season ends, so it's a guess during the season. Well alrighty then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, Rydawg said: I hate it. You know you're going to have injuries at some point. Hopefully nothing major, but injuries none the less. Keep someone in AAA ready to go until such injury or lack of performance arrive and then call them up. There's no need to take starts away from Alcantara, Lucero, Roger's ( assuming he's pitching well), or Cueto. Cabrera might need a breather now and then to build up his innings. I hate how they coddle pitchers in today's game! Yes. I'm an old man!!! Stay off of my lawn!!! Again, for the thought I posted, Sandy doesn't get skipped, ever. Luzardo, maybe some skips here and there but not full-time, should be every fifth game until All-Star Break at least. Rogers, TBD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 20 hours ago, Michael said: Don was checked out for 98% of the season anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, rmc523 said: Don was checked out for 98% of the season anyway. 100% really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovertical Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 32 minutes ago, Michael said: 100% really. 101% agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 17 hours ago, Michael said: 100% really. Eh, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and figured he was in it for like the first couple of innings of game 1. After that he was out lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flsportsfan83 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 40 minutes ago, TaiwanMarlins said: Interesting i don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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