CUBMAR Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I do not understand why Nate Robertson is still in the rotation. We send down Volstad for his inconsistencies but yet we still give this bum the ball every time. We have a better opportunity bringing up a pitcher from AAA then this guy. He makes a lot but it is not worrth it. We can never put together a strong winning streak with this guy in the rotation. cut our losses and release him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarlinPride Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Yeah lets release a guy who we basically got for free and can be trade to a couple of teams for something in return. He also could be like Hendrickson a few years back and be useful in the Bullpen for an inning or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bret Hart Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Don't Think about what is the return for trade. Just RELEASE. Now, he ruined team chemistry and bullpen workload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 This has nothing to do with chemistry. And you absolutely trade him or make him a LOOGY before you consider releasing him at all. And he's only making (a prorated share) of $400k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarlinPride Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Don't Think about what is the return for trade. Just RELEASE. Now, he ruined team chemistry and bullpen workload. How does he ruin team Chemistry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejandrasnow Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 This has nothing to do with chemistry. And you absolutely trade him or make him a LOOGY before you consider releasing him at all. And he's only making (a prorated share) of $400k. ctina approves of this message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada-marlin24 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 i got back a little late and i just knew that when i signed online i would see us getting pounded. robertson is a weak link in the rotation and a win streak killer. even when hes good he isnt that good. he basically gave us absolutely no chance to win tonight at a time where we cant afford to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 You know that line dont cry over spilled milk? My line with Nate Robertson is... don't over milk that you already knew was probably gonna spill. I'm not a fan of Nate's... but I still stand my ground by saying he's a .500 pitcher and a #5 starter... his role is to eat up innings and not be a complete wreck. Even with today's disaster... he's done his part this year. Its not like its our top of the line starters blowing up. Do I want him released? Yep... but he doesnt upset me that much. Bottom line, I dont expect much from him at all, never did. So I'll take whatever positives he's given us. He hasnt been completely useless as a whole throughout the first few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanley2Ramirez Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 No you dont release him you send him to AAA and hope he can become a decent reliever. volstad or west should be ready to come up. i mean he is going against an ace today in jeff francis or atleast we make him look like an ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Francis has a 5 ERA. He's no ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 This has nothing to do with chemistry. And you absolutely trade him or make him a LOOGY before you consider releasing him at all. And he's only making (a prorated share) of $400k. I wouldn't release him but his numbers vs. lefties are not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Me Some Fish Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 He's terrible, maybe the Mets want him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Isn't Tankersley pretty much assigned to the LOOGY role? Robertson's numbers vs. LHB haven't been that great (not good enough to make him a LOOGY). They hit him pretty well and get on base a ton, despite none hitting HRs off of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BafflingBeerman Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I have been saying Robertson is a typical 5th starter, so we shouldn't cast him aside, but how is Volstad doing? I would say bring back Volstad and stick him in the rotation, if he is doing better in the minors, and either move Nate to the BP or trade him. Release him? No. We should try to squeeze some more value out of Nate, whether it be in the bullpen or as tradebait (as an additional piece?). While he has done poorly recently, relatively speaking, he is not 0-15 and has provided some solid outings for us. Not great outings, but some "Alright, we'll take it" outings. But now may be time for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbgator4 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 His ERA is 5.47 which if im seeing correctly is the worst in the league where pitchers have at least 1 IP per team game....second to last is 5.22. That is not a typical 5th starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirspud Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 People need to stop spreading the fallacy that Robertson is an innings eater. He hasn't gone above six innings except for in one start- where he went exactly 6.1. He's no good, and if this team has any aspirations of making the playoffs this should have been his last start for us. Actually, his last start should have been the one right before the AS break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Hopefully we can get a bag of chips for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I wouldn't even trade him. He's almost a free arm. Put him in the pen. He no longer has a place in our bullpen, either. You either trade him for crap or DFA him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 His ERA is 5.47 which if im seeing correctly is the worst in the league where pitchers have at least 1 IP per team game....second to last is 5.22. That is not a typical 5th starter. Yes it is, the problem is that you are only looking at qualified starters. Most 5th guys don't qualified, mostly because most don't stick in the rotation, only to be replaced by someone else equally terrible. Only 6 teams have 5 qualified starters (Us, ChiSox, Twins, Yanks, Pads, Rays). Though he's not the worst, there are 5 guys worse than him that are qualified Player ERA Nick Blackburn 6.53 Chris Narveson 5.83 Kevin Millwood 5.77 Brian Bannister 5.65 Tim Wakefield 5.65 I'm not saying he's been great or even good, but 5th starters aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Here are guys with at least 10 starts before today (and yeah, that's why Nate's ERA is lower than today's). Rk Player ERA GS Tm 1 Charlie Morton 9.35 10 PIT 2 Scott Kazmir 6.92 17 LAA 3 Dana Eveland 6.79 10 TOT 4 Nick Blackburn 6.53 18 MIN 5 Brad Bergesen 6.37 14 BAL 6 Joe Blanton 6.21 14 PHI 7 Ryan Rowland-Smith 6.18 17 SEA 8 Bud Norris 6.09 13 HOU 9 David Huff 6.04 13 CLE 10 Chris Narveson 5.83 15 MIL 11 Kevin Millwood 5.77 18 BAL 12 John Lannan 5.76 14 WSN 13 Rich Harden 5.68 13 TEX 14 Brian Bannister 5.65 19 KCR 15 Tim Wakefield 5.65 15 BOS 16 Rick Porcello 5.63 14 DET 17 Dontrelle Willis 5.62 13 TOT 18 Manny Parra 5.52 10 MIL 19 Todd Wellemeyer 5.52 11 SFG 20 Craig Stammen 5.50 16 WSN 21 Scott Feldman 5.48 19 TEX 22 Kyle Davies 5.45 18 KCR 23 Zach Duke 5.38 15 PIT 24 Justin Masterson 5.31 18 CLE 25 Kevin Correia 5.22 18 SDP 26 Brian Matusz 5.21 19 BAL 27 Scott Baker 5.15 19 MIN 28 Jeff Francis 5.14 11 COL 29 Wandy Rodriguez 5.11 19 HOU 30 Nate Robertson 5.10 17 FLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2r09 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 we really need to get to the trade deadline faster. i honestly dont care how the team does, i just want to see the future up here. call up west, morrison, maybin when healthy, ceda, and maybe 1-2 more guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordMagnus Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 This has nothing to do with chemistry. And you absolutely trade him or make him a LOOGY before you consider releasing him at all. And he's only making (a prorated share) of $400k. Robertson is bad...against everyone. Why do you even want him in the bullpen? He's terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 This has nothing to do with chemistry. And you absolutely trade him or make him a LOOGY before you consider releasing him at all. And he's only making (a prorated share) of $400k. Robertson is bad...against everyone. Why do you even want him in the bullpen? He's terrible. Well, some of us said the same about Hendrickson and he had a 3.03 ERA out of the pen (and was pretty good out of the pen the next year too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarlinPride Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 This has nothing to do with chemistry. And you absolutely trade him or make him a LOOGY before you consider releasing him at all. And he's only making (a prorated share) of $400k. Robertson is bad...against everyone. Why do you even want him in the bullpen? He's terrible. Well, some of us said the same about Hendrickson and he had a 3.03 ERA out of the pen (and was pretty good out of the pen the next year too). That's why I want to recall Volstad or West or RVH, a starting pitcher and put Nate in the bullpen. Marinez really shouldn't be up here anyways, he has great stuff but isn't really fully developed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BafflingBeerman Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I wonder what Nate's stats are the first time through a lineup. That could be a good indicator if he will excel more in the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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