For NL batters with 175+ PA:

OPS

1. Joey Votto, .1019

2. Carlos Gonzalez, .995

3. Albert Pujols, .993

4. Logan Morrison, .928

We need another starter with a mid 3's ERA. Our bullpen will be fine, I would think, and we could easily scratch someone out that'll compete with all the other #5 starters in the league. The problem is that 4th guy. If that 4th starter is Ricky Nolasco, then we are in great shape.

 

JJ, _____, Anibal, Ricky, Sanabia/West/Miller/Volstad.

 

Honestly, just spend another damn 5-10 Mil and get us a #2 pitcher. We don't exactly need 2 15M/year guys or anything. We have the best value lineup in the majors, we just need that damn pitcher.

 

Which is why I think the Uggla money (i love him.. will hate to see him go) would be better spent on a starter and a bullpen guy (hopefully a closer)

 

plus Ozzie likes speed so he'll let boni run a bunch :whistle

 

 

 

will be an interesting off season

We need another starter with a mid 3's ERA. Our bullpen will be fine, I would think, and we could easily scratch someone out that'll compete with all the other #5 starters in the league. The problem is that 4th guy. If that 4th starter is Ricky Nolasco, then we are in great shape.

 

JJ, _____, Anibal, Ricky, Sanabia/West/Miller/Volstad.

 

Honestly, just spend another damn 5-10 Mil and get us a #2 pitcher. We don't exactly need 2 15M/year guys or anything. We have the best value lineup in the majors, we just need that damn pitcher.

 

Which is why I think the Uggla money (i love him.. will hate to see him go) would be better spent on a starter and a bullpen guy (hopefully a closer)

 

plus Ozzie likes speed so he'll let boni run a bunch :whistle

 

 

 

will be an interesting off season

 

The thing is, then our starting lineup wouldn't be as great as it is now, which would require THAT to be fixed as well. I find the odds of finding a good pitcher next season within our organization higher than finding a bat that'll at least somewhat match Uggla's production within our organization. Who would take Uggla's spot in the lineup? The only option I see is Bonifacio. Pair that up with the very large possibility of Maybin struggling next season and we've got 2 guys hiting .240.

The lineup will also have a full year of Morrison and Coghlan. Hanley should also return to 09 form. I also think Stanton will adjust quicker than most people think he will.

 

Offense won't be a problem w/o uggla, IMO

For NL batters with 175+ PA:

OPS

1. Joey Votto, .1019

2. Carlos Gonzalez, .995

3. Albert Pujols, .993

4. Logan Morrison, .928

 

 

I think I'm falling in love.

This offense would be playoff caliber with or without Uggla. We need pitching, and we need it desperately.

It's going to be difficult to get a #2 starter...as a matter of fact, I don't think it's possible. However, it is possible and absolutely necessary to fix the bullpen.

 

The Marlins need to look at the Padres, and realize...we have a better lineup than these people, the top of our rotation's are at least comparable, but our bullpen isn't nearly as good as theirs, and that's the difference.

 

Look at all the teams contending for a playoff spot or in a playoff spot. The majority of those teams have very good bullpens.

 

Also, another reason why I wouldn't mind losing Uggla is because I'm not sure he's worth the money he'd get if he signs. His offense is super, but realistically, he won't be playing 2B much longer, and even if he stays by default, it's not as if he's good or even average anymore, defensively. We can't replace Uggla's offense, but we can get average production offensively at the position and much better defense, in the process.

 

I'd like to keep Uggla, but if we trade him in order to get value in pitching, I wouldn't mind that one bit.

The lineup will also have a full year of Morrison and Coghlan. Hanley should also return to 09 form. I also think Stanton will adjust quicker than most people think he will.

 

Offense won't be a problem w/o uggla, IMO

 

 

You have a point but what if Coghlan doesn't return to form and LoMo and Stanton struggle next season?

I feel Uggla is a safe bet to give us production offensively (at least 25 HRs, 90 RBIs, 85 Runs Scored) and he needs to be on the team.

Bonifacio really isn't a guy I'd want to start everyday, he's a good bench player/spot starter but his numbers probably won't correlate positively as a full time starter.

 

If we sign Uggla I really don't feel it'll be hard to find a solid 2 starter if we put Volstad or West on the block and package one of them with a decent outfield prospect (maybe Cousins).

I'd love to get the previously mentioned (I believe by Erick) James Shields from Tampa, they are a team that loves Young Starting Pitching ala Volstad/West and if they lose Crawford will need a backup outfielder to replace whoever is going to be the new stating LF (most likely Joyce if Jennings isn't ready).

 

And to note Shield is pretty for a quality arm.

 

I'd love the rotation of J.J., Big Game James, Anibal, Nolasco(if he's signed) and Sanabia/West/Volstad/Whoever.

 

Bottom line, try to sign Uggla and hope he continues his raking or if anything we could trade him for that number 2 we've been looking and a possible replacement at 2B along with West/Volstad

i started the season thinking boni was a bad guy to rely on, but he has learned to lay down a good bunt, and has found a little more plate discipline. if coughlan doesn't come back to form, then i would have no problem platooning boni with cogs.

The lineup will also have a full year of Morrison and Coghlan. Hanley should also return to 09 form. I also think Stanton will adjust quicker than most people think he will.

 

Offense won't be a problem w/o uggla, IMO

 

 

You have a point but what if Coghlan doesn't return to form and LoMo and Stanton struggle next season?

I feel Uggla is a safe bet to give us production offensively (at least 25 HRs, 90 RBIs, 85 Runs Scored) and he needs to be on the team.

Bonifacio really isn't a guy I'd want to start everyday, he's a good bench player/spot starter but his numbers probably won't correlate positively as a full time starter.

 

If we sign Uggla I really don't feel it'll be hard to find a solid 2 starter if we put Volstad or West on the block and package one of them with a decent outfield prospect (maybe Cousins).

I'd love to get the previously mentioned (I believe by Erick) James Shields from Tampa, they are a team that loves Young Starting Pitching ala Volstad/West and if they lose Crawford will need a backup outfielder to replace whoever is going to be the new stating LF (most likely Joyce if Jennings isn't ready).

 

And to note Shield is pretty for a quality arm.

 

I'd love the rotation of J.J., Big Game James, Anibal, Nolasco(if he's signed) and Sanabia/West/Volstad/Whoever.

 

Bottom line, try to sign Uggla and hope he continues his raking or if anything we could trade him for that number 2 we've been looking and a possible replacement at 2B along with West/Volstad

 

 

I don't really care for acquiring James Shields over Volstad. He's going on 30 in 2011, is going to command more money (4,250,000 mill, if I'm not mistaken) and has seemingly regressed since 2008. Also, he gives up a good amount of HR's (currently 2nd in the MLB) which is exactly one of the issues everyone has bitched about in Volstad (although he's been better this season). Yes, he does have his upside in comparison to Volstad and he could very well turn it around in 2011 but this could also be him going down hill. I'd rather keep Volstad for a bit longer and see if he improves. He's still young and is only in his third season in the bigs. I guess I'm one of the fans holding out hope for him.

Trade 1B Gaby Sanchez and RHP Leo Nunez to Tampa Bay for 2B/SS Sean Rodriguez and LHP Jake McGee ---> Rays get their 1B to replace Pena/reliever to replace at least 1 of Soriano/Benoit; we get a stud 2B defensively & a definite arm for the future, possibly starting next year.

 

Trade 2B/3B/OF Chris Coghlan to Oakland for RHP Henry Rodriguez ----> Billy Beane's team needs bats, and Coghlan is a solid bat. We get Rodriguez who would fill in in middle relief, and has the stuff and potential to be a closer one day. By stuff, I mean 100+ mph/90 mph slider stuff.

 

Trade RHP Chris Volstad to San Diego for RHP Ryan Webb ---> San Diego gets Volstad, since Garland and Correia are free agents likely to depart this offseason; we get Webb who's probably their 6th best reliever/would be a backend guy on most teams.

 

Leaving: Andrew Miller, Jose Veras, Brian Sanches, Donnie Murphy (I think Murphy can go to the minors? Either way, Helms staying means he's my odd man out)

Entering: Justin Duchscherer, Randy Choate, Reed Johnson

 

Starting Catcher - Ronnie Paulino

Backup - Brett Hayes/Brad Davis (Spring Training)

 

Starting 1B - Logan Morrison

Backup - Chad Tracy, Wes Helms

 

Starting 2B - Sean Rodriguez

Backup - Emilio Bonifacio

 

Starting 3B - Dan Uggla

Backup - Chad Tracy, Wes Helms, Emilio Bonifacio, Sean Rodriguez

 

Starting SS - Hanley Ramirez

Backup - Emilio Bonifacio, Sean Rodriguez

 

Starting OF - Scott Cousins (LF), Cameron Maybin (CF), Mike Stanton (RF)

Backups - Emilio Bonifacio, Reed Johnson, Sean Rodriguez

 

Starting Pitchers

SP1 - Josh Johnson

SP2 - Ricky Nolasco

SP3 - Anibal Sanchez

SP4 - Alex Sanabia / Justin Duchscherer (Spring Training)

SP5 - Sean West / Jake McGee (Spring Training)

 

Bullpen

Long Relief / Middle Relief - Burke Badenhop

Long Relief / Middle Relief - Alex Sanabia / Justin Duchscherer (whoever loses out on the 4th spot of the rotation)

Lefty Specialist - Will Ohman

Lefty Specialist - Randy Choate

7th, 8th, 9th - Henry Rodriguez, Ryan Webb, Clay Hensley (don't care for the roles, but those are the 3 guys in the backend of the pen)

 

Starting Lineup vs. RHP: 1. Maybin - CF, 2. Morrison - 1B, 3. Ramirez - SS, 4. Uggla - 3B, 5. Stanton - RF, 6. Cousins - LF, 7. Rodriguez - 2B, 8. Paulino - C, 9. Pitcher

Starting Lineup vs. LHP: 1. Maybin - CF, 2. Morrison - 1B, 3. Ramirez - SS, 4. Uggla - 3B, 5. Stanton - RF, 6. Paulino - C, 7. Cousins - LF, 8. Rodriguez - 2B, 9. Pitcher

 

I was bored, and I don't think it came out that bad / that unrealistic either..........:blink:

lol, I don't think any of it is realistic, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend I never played GM before when I was bored. It's creative, I'll give you that.

Carmona is available from the Indians.

 

Six million next year and two affordable TEAM options for less than Uggla will make.

 

Keep Ohman, Nunez, Hensley, Badenhop, Veras, Sanches and add another lefty and a strikethrower.

 

Dump Miller, West.

 

Give Eli and Koehler a shot at the bigs.

 

Move Uggla.

 

Move Helms.

Carmona is available from the Indians.

 

Six million next year and two affordable TEAM options for less than Uggla will make.

 

Keep Ohman, Nunez, Hensley, Badenhop, Veras, Sanches and add another lefty and a strikethrower.

 

Dump Miller, West.

 

Give Eli and Koehler a shot at the bigs.

 

Move Uggla.

 

Move Helms.

 

Can

 

you

 

give

 

some

 

reasons

 

why

 

you

 

want

 

those

 

things

 

to

 

happen?

Keep the bullpen guys who have been productive. Add the lefty and another bullpen arm

 

Trade Uggla's salary for Carmona's and bullpen help.

 

Marlins have two AA pitchers who were lights out this year. Makes sense to try them out.

 

Miller and West are documented failures. If they weren't high draft picks, nobody would care at all about them. West won't even get into shape or try to learn to field his position.

 

Helms is over the hill and fading fast. If he is on the team next year, his Uncle Wes stature will force the manager to keep putting him out there so he can keep failing.

I'm going to break a lot of you guys hearts when I do the offseason salary and arbitration guide, but you guys can continue with these wild "signings" for now.

For NL batters with 175+ PA:

OPS

1. Joey Votto, .1019

2. Carlos Gonzalez, .995

3. Albert Pujols, .993

4. Logan Morrison, .928

 

And this is incredible

This offense would be playoff caliber with or without Uggla. We need pitching, and we need it desperately.

It's going to be difficult to get a #2 starter...as a matter of fact, I don't think it's possible. However, it is possible and absolutely necessary to fix the bullpen.

 

The Marlins need to look at the Padres, and realize...we have a better lineup than these people, the top of our rotation's are at least comparable, but our bullpen isn't nearly as good as theirs, and that's the difference.

 

Look at all the teams contending for a playoff spot or in a playoff spot. The majority of those teams have very good bullpens.

 

Also, another reason why I wouldn't mind losing Uggla is because I'm not sure he's worth the money he'd get if he signs. His offense is super, but realistically, he won't be playing 2B much longer, and even if he stays by default, it's not as if he's good or even average anymore, defensively. We can't replace Uggla's offense, but we can get average production offensively at the position and much better defense, in the process.

 

I'd like to keep Uggla, but if we trade him in order to get value in pitching, I wouldn't mind that one bit.

 

This X1000.

Trade 1B Gaby Sanchez and RHP Leo Nunez to Tampa Bay for 2B/SS Sean Rodriguez and LHP Jake McGee ---> Rays get their 1B to replace Pena/reliever to replace at least 1 of Soriano/Benoit; we get a stud 2B defensively & a definite arm for the future, possibly starting next year.

 

Trade 2B/3B/OF Chris Coghlan to Oakland for RHP Henry Rodriguez ----> Billy Beane's team needs bats, and Coghlan is a solid bat. We get Rodriguez who would fill in in middle relief, and has the stuff and potential to be a closer one day. By stuff, I mean 100+ mph/90 mph slider stuff.

 

Trade RHP Chris Volstad to San Diego for RHP Ryan Webb ---> San Diego gets Volstad, since Garland and Correia are free agents likely to depart this offseason; we get Webb who's probably their 6th best reliever/would be a backend guy on most teams.

 

Leaving: Andrew Miller, Jose Veras, Brian Sanches, Donnie Murphy (I think Murphy can go to the minors? Either way, Helms staying means he's my odd man out)

Entering: Justin Duchscherer, Randy Choate, Reed Johnson

 

Starting Catcher - Ronnie Paulino

Backup - Brett Hayes/Brad Davis (Spring Training)

 

Starting 1B - Logan Morrison

Backup - Chad Tracy, Wes Helms

 

Starting 2B - Sean Rodriguez

Backup - Emilio Bonifacio

 

Starting 3B - Dan Uggla

Backup - Chad Tracy, Wes Helms, Emilio Bonifacio, Sean Rodriguez

 

Starting SS - Hanley Ramirez

Backup - Emilio Bonifacio, Sean Rodriguez

 

Starting OF - Scott Cousins (LF), Cameron Maybin (CF), Mike Stanton (RF)

Backups - Emilio Bonifacio, Reed Johnson, Sean Rodriguez

 

Starting Pitchers

SP1 - Josh Johnson

SP2 - Ricky Nolasco

SP3 - Anibal Sanchez

SP4 - Alex Sanabia / Justin Duchscherer (Spring Training)

SP5 - Sean West / Jake McGee (Spring Training)

 

Bullpen

Long Relief / Middle Relief - Burke Badenhop

Long Relief / Middle Relief - Alex Sanabia / Justin Duchscherer (whoever loses out on the 4th spot of the rotation)

Lefty Specialist - Will Ohman

Lefty Specialist - Randy Choate

7th, 8th, 9th - Henry Rodriguez, Ryan Webb, Clay Hensley (don't care for the roles, but those are the 3 guys in the backend of the pen)

 

Starting Lineup vs. RHP: 1. Maybin - CF, 2. Morrison - 1B, 3. Ramirez - SS, 4. Uggla - 3B, 5. Stanton - RF, 6. Cousins - LF, 7. Rodriguez - 2B, 8. Paulino - C, 9. Pitcher

Starting Lineup vs. LHP: 1. Maybin - CF, 2. Morrison - 1B, 3. Ramirez - SS, 4. Uggla - 3B, 5. Stanton - RF, 6. Paulino - C, 7. Cousins - LF, 8. Rodriguez - 2B, 9. Pitcher

 

I was bored, and I don't think it came out that bad / that unrealistic either..........:blink:

 

Unfortunately, I think they really are hell bent on getting a catcher. And rightfully so with Ronnie being suspended and Baker being out till probably mid season. I see a totally different catcher from outside the organization next year.

This team gets rid of Uggla and I lose faith in the Front Office forever. I'll be a fan, but getting rid of UGgla? Might as well let JJ, Stanton Hanley lomo all go cause I doubt with a new stadium team will spend. You get revenue money, put it towards team now. Geez

This team gets rid of Uggla and I lose faith in the Front Office forever. I'll be a fan, but getting rid of UGgla? Might as well let JJ, Stanton Hanley lomo all go cause I doubt with a new stadium team will spend. You get revenue money, put it towards team now. Geez

 

 

We can use Uggla to acquire something this team desperately needs, Starting Pitching.

This team gets rid of Uggla and I lose faith in the Front Office forever. I'll be a fan, but getting rid of UGgla? Might as well let JJ, Stanton Hanley lomo all go cause I doubt with a new stadium team will spend. You get revenue money, put it towards team now. Geez

 

 

We can use Uggla to acquire something this team desperately needs, Starting Pitching.

Team needs BP. They can afford Uggla. Hanley got a big contract. Give one to uggla. Also we don't need ESPN ripping into team for trading Uggla.

Uggla isn't Hanley

This team gets rid of Uggla and I lose faith in the Front Office forever. I'll be a fan, but getting rid of UGgla? Might as well let JJ, Stanton Hanley lomo all go cause I doubt with a new stadium team will spend. You get revenue money, put it towards team now. Geez

 

 

We can use Uggla to acquire something this team desperately needs, Starting Pitching.

Team needs BP. They can afford Uggla. Hanley got a big contract. Give one to uggla. Also we don't need ESPN ripping into team for trading Uggla.

 

Starting pitching is more important. And who the hell cares what ESPN says?

This team gets rid of Uggla and I lose faith in the Front Office forever. I'll be a fan, but getting rid of UGgla? Might as well let JJ, Stanton Hanley lomo all go cause I doubt with a new stadium team will spend. You get revenue money, put it towards team now. Geez

 

 

We can use Uggla to acquire something this team desperately needs, Starting Pitching.

Team needs BP. They can afford Uggla. Hanley got a big contract. Give one to uggla. Also we don't need ESPN ripping into team for trading Uggla.

You care about what ESPN thinks? Wow, I hope you aren't serious. ESPN sucks. Eastern Sports Network. Who cares. They can't afford Uggla and if they could we have so many problems we aren't going to solve in free agency and you have to consider your bargaining chips.

This team gets rid of Uggla and I lose faith in the Front Office forever. I'll be a fan, but getting rid of UGgla? Might as well let JJ, Stanton Hanley lomo all go cause I doubt with a new stadium team will spend. You get revenue money, put it towards team now. Geez

 

Really? You'll lose faith in the FO forever? Wow, how long have you been a fan? You stuck around after Beckett, Willis, and Cabrera were traded and you'd leave after Uggla? Comical.