November 15, 201213 yr LOL. The deal 'just blew the Marlins away'. Toronto: Hey Miami we know Boston has a good deal in place for these guys and we can't exactly offer as good of a deal BUT we can take Mark Buehrle and Emilio Bonifacio for free anyways?
November 15, 201213 yr Late, but um, this is all really great to hear. I guess I expected this from the same guy who screwed over the Expos.
November 15, 201213 yr I hate that Reyes got dumped. You play god knows how many games the second half of the season with Gorkys, Cousins and Peterson as your outfield, Velasquez at 3rd and Buck behind the plate, no Stanton...the team loses 70% or more of its games, and Reyes and Buehle get dumped because the time finished last with them on the team, as if they contributed to the crapfest. I've never been more disillusioned about being a fan of this team. The quotes from Loria and Samson are proof positive beyond question that they live in an alternative universe. Planet Claire. The Marlins are a team of no hope, no future, courtesy of the art dealer and his moron of son-in -law, little Napolean. Contract the team so I can get on with my life.
November 15, 201213 yr Obviously the Marlins are a better team now. Winning less games is more desirable.
November 15, 201213 yr Le Batard's spot on commentary: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/14/3097779/miami-marlins-and-fans-a-history.html Apologies if this has already been posted, but I didn't see it.
November 15, 201213 yr it look like Loria dont care for us we should go fanfest with bag over our head and ask Samson why Loria is so cheap why not sell team someone who care for team
November 15, 201213 yr Le Batard's spot on commentary: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/14/3097779/miami-marlins-and-fans-a-history.html Apologies if this has already been posted, but I didn't see it. Very nice and on point. Even though many think Loria is decides all player decisions not changing managent in this total cluster makes everything look worse.
November 15, 201213 yr The Marlins got seven players for just four players. They won this trade easily.
November 15, 201213 yr Bold prediction: 82 to 84 wins. SOMEHOW! Think you can do that just because when it doesn't happen nobody will think about this but when it does, you can just drag it out and look all smarty pants eh Mr. Michael? Think again! I'm going to mock you endlessly for this when we finish with 54 wins.
November 15, 201213 yr come and see return of florida marlins catch fever buy season ticket you going have good time look at all bluejay on our team
November 15, 201213 yr Bold prediction: 82 to 84 wins. SOMEHOW! Think you can do that just because when it doesn't happen nobody will think about this but when it does, you can just drag it out and look all smarty pants eh Mr. Michael? Think again! I'm going to mock you endlessly for this when we finish with 54 wins. That's why I made it a BOLD prediction! So take your PhD and shove it, sir!
November 15, 201213 yr Funny how the marlins didnt want to get rid of Reyes....but they did. And Toronto insisted on us taking the cancer in Escobar.....and we took him.
November 15, 201213 yr The Marlins got seven players for just four players. They won this trade easily. But now they have to drop three.
November 15, 201213 yr Author This thread has got to have set some kind of record on this forum. I don't know that Pujols thread was staggering. But this one is up there for sure
November 15, 201213 yr This thread has got to have set some kind of record on this forum. I don't know that Pujols thread was staggering. But this one is up there for sure The Pujols thread was a nightmare of excitement and disappointment.
November 15, 201213 yr I got to thinking about when all those contracts were signed. I rembrr people on the board saying the contracts we signed them to we're like no trade clauses because no one else would pay that money. Well that backfired
November 15, 201213 yr I got to thinking about when all those contracts were signed. I rembrr people on the board saying the contracts we signed them to we're like no trade clauses because no one else would pay that money. Well that backfired I'd bet that was said mostly in the context of Pujols. Remember that Pujols would have been owed double the amount of the highest contract the Marlins moved (Reyes).
November 15, 201213 yr In response to those of you who say the deal isn't as bad as it initially seemed. I would agree with you on that, sort of....the fact they were able to clear a TON of money off the books from a LAST place team is a positive thing. However, you need to stop saying this was a good move on their part because as many others have also pointed out - their image and the very fragile fanbase there has been utterly decimated by this move. The going perception of Loria was that he's a shady cheapskate. Do you think he honestly did ANYTHING to soften that image? Nope. He made it a thousand times worse with this trade. Did moves need to be made? Absolutely. But at the same time you have to have some vague sense of the brand of your franchise and how it's viewed in an already volatile market. As some other have pointed out, he clearly refuses to try and build for the longterm. He's shortsighted and petulant. This is also why we've had 5 managers in the last handful of seasons, even when they win the manager of the year or manage a club to .500+ baseball with a skimpy payroll....nope, still not good enough. He has done NOTHING to instill even the slimmest glimmer of faith in the direction this team is going.
November 15, 201213 yr Funny how the marlins didnt want to get rid of Reyes....but they did. And Toronto insisted on us taking the cancer in Escobar.....and we took him. Yunel Escobar is a career .766 OPS SS owed 5M. He had an awful year last year, true. But, we took him mainly to take SOME money off of the Jays books, and also because we fully intend on moving him. I'd be surprised if Escobar and Nolasco are on our roster come opening day.
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