I don't want the trade vetoed at all. I want Loria and Samson GONE.

I read some guy was organizing a protest.

 

An empty opening day would be great.

 

 

Even if this happened, do you really think Loria would give half a sh*t?

 

Considering he's pocketing revenue sharing money and just f***ed the Rays to the point that he might have a state-wide TV deal some day, probably not.

 

He probably wouldn't mind it if he's the only guy in attendance this year.

I read some guy was organizing a protest.

 

An empty opening day would be great.

 

 

Even if this happened, do you really think Loria would give half a sh*t?

 

Considering he's pocketing revenue sharing money and just f***ed the Rays to the point that he might have a state-wide TV deal some day, probably not.

 

He probably wouldn't mind it if he's the only guy in attendance this year.

 

Exactly. Loria cares about one thing and it's not winning games. His arrogant, contemptuous response to reporters was just icing on the cake. He's exploited baseball within baseball's own rules for a massive profit and he doesn't give a sh*t about anything else.

The trade getting rejected is about the worst possible thing that could happen. We'd get all the negative reactions and backlash from FAs and other players, we would have several unhappy players and that would end in one of two ways. Them being shipped individually throughout the season, causing our rebuilding phase to go along more slowly. Or we continue to overpay drastically for players underperforming and Loria does nothing and we sit around being at best a .500 club.

Nothing positive would come from this trade getting rejected. The damage is done, best thing now is to move on and hope they get it right this time and sign the right guys.

First, I think you're a troll.

 

Second, Josh Hamilton would be a terrible signing for this team.

Loria, according to one industry source, sat alone in the lunch room, not conversing with his fellow owners. Teams from the American League East were unhappy that the Blue Jays improved dramatically, clubs from the National League Central and West were displeased that the four other NL East members would be able to feast on the carcass posing as the Marlins and there was a general sense of embarrassment over the Marlins cutting bait just one year after opening a new ballpark built overwhelmingly with public monies.

You know what i gathered from that?

 

The owners have a lunch room?

 

I picture it like a high school lunch room with sloppy trays and dirty tables. Loria must be the goth kid in the corner wearing go go boots with dead fish in the bottom.

 

He's a Goth Jonah Hill from 40 year old Virgin.

The Miami Marlins and the End of Publicly Financed Stadiums

What's pretty obnoxious is Samson saying stupid sh*t like "you may not know who these player are, but our baseball people do." What an asshole.

 

f*** this condescending prick.

Often, Samson says, people focus too much on the big names of players, and not the end results. "So I hear you, it's the names," Samson said.

What's pretty obnoxious is Samson saying stupid sh*t like "you may not know who these player are, but our baseball people do." What an asshole.

 

f*** this condescending prick.

Often, Samson says, people focus too much on the big names of players, and not the end results. "So I hear you, it's the names," Samson said.

 

 

The way they try to justify what they do is such a f***ing joke. Like the public has half a brain.

 

Apparently, we're a better team now.

What's pretty obnoxious is Samson saying stupid sh*t like "you may not know who these player are, but our baseball people do." What an asshole.

 

f*** this condescending prick.

Often, Samson says, people focus too much on the big names of players, and not the end results. "So I hear you, it's the names," Samson said.

 

 

The way they try to justify what they do is such a f***ing joke. Like the public has half a brain.

 

Apparently, we're a better team now.

 

Well, if they sign a couple of players, they might be.

After all, the team only won 69 games last year...

 

It would be very fitting for this front office to field a 70-win team next year and say: "See? We didn't lie. We got better."

I have a serious question. Is the public mad because we are going to predictably be a worse team next year? Or because the payroll went down?

 

I've read too many articles from non-baseball fans/general media saying this is bad because the team's payroll was promised to be higher in the new ballpark. I myself don't care how much the payroll is, I care that we have a consistently contending competitive ballclub.

 

Bob Nightengale posted this... "He has lowered his payroll from $118 million to about $30 million in salary commitments in 2013, meaning he should pocket about $110 million in profits next year, thanks to that fancy ballpark."

 

My response was, well so what if payroll is lowered? If this new team turns out to be a ten-fifteen game improvement over the 2012 team, yet has a drastically lower payroll, who cares? I mean, shouldn't Loria be looking for a profit? At the end of the day, he's still a business owner, sleazeball or not. His goal will never be to spend excessive money and lose profits just to please the fanbase and media.

 

Am I making any sense? I just feel like the local media is misunderstanding what we as actual Marlins fans are upset about.

 

Put it this way, if we do in 2013 what the A's did in 2012, would the media still be upset because our payroll is low and Loria profits from a successful team?

Because the piece of sh*t who owns the team cares nothing about the South Florida, the fans of the team, or the game of baseball. He cares about money. This is the final straw that takes away all doubt about his good intentions.

McCourt was forced out of baseball, and Loria should be too.

McCourt was forced out of baseball, and Loria should be too.

 

 

THIS.

I have a serious question. Is the public mad because we are going to predictably be a worse team next year? Or because the payroll went down?

 

I've read too many articles from non-baseball fans/general media saying this is bad because the team's payroll was promised to be higher in the new ballpark. I myself don't care how much the payroll is, I care that we have a consistently contending competitive ballclub.

 

Bob Nightengale posted this... "He has lowered his payroll from $118 million to about $30 million in salary commitments in 2013, meaning he should pocket about $110 million in profits next year, thanks to that fancy ballpark."

 

My response was, well so what if payroll is lowered? If this new team turns out to be a ten-fifteen game improvement over the 2012 team, yet has a drastically lower payroll, who cares? I mean, shouldn't Loria be looking for a profit? At the end of the day, he's still a business owner, sleazeball or not. His goal will never be to spend excessive money and lose profits just to please the fanbase and media.

 

Am I making any sense? I just feel like the local media is misunderstanding what we as actual Marlins fans are upset about.

 

Put it this way, if we do in 2013 what the A's did in 2012, would the media still be upset because our payroll is low and Loria profits from a successful team?

 

 

Even the A's had a payroll double what it will be be after this trade.

When I saw the trade, I broke it down as...

Reyes for Marisnick, Escobar

JJ for Alvarez, Hechevarria

Buehrle for Nicholino

Bonifacio for Desclafani

Buck for Mathis

 

The Marlins could put it in that way and make it make sense from a baseball perspective when you include player salaries, state of the team, etc. + say they'll re-invest in the team and MLB has really no reason to reject it.

Funny how the marlins didnt want to get rid of Reyes....but they did.

 

And Toronto insisted on us taking the cancer in Escobar.....and we took him.

 

 

Yea, I would have rather kept Bonifacio and let them keep Escobar. That seems to make a lot more sense considering one of the two SS we got will end up playing 2B or 3B anyway.

Funny how the marlins didnt want to get rid of Reyes....but they did.

 

And Toronto insisted on us taking the cancer in Escobar.....and we took him.

 

 

Yea, I would have rather kept Bonifacio and let them keep Escobar. That seems to make a lot more sense considering one of the two SS we got will end up playing 2B or 3B anyway.

 

Escobar's the better player, for what it's worth.

Funny how the marlins didnt want to get rid of Reyes....but they did.

 

And Toronto insisted on us taking the cancer in Escobar.....and we took him.

 

 

Yea, I would have rather kept Bonifacio and let them keep Escobar. That seems to make a lot more sense considering one of the two SS we got will end up playing 2B or 3B anyway.

 

Escobar's the better player, for what it's worth.

 

But boni is the better human

Been a fan since I was little and will continue being a fan but I will no longer be watching games or sporting marlins gear until I see CHANGE. I was annoyed with the recent events that happened but not surprised. They always do this. Marlins need an owner like micky Arison.

 

Who in their right minds would pay money to see this team play next year?

I have a serious question. Is the public mad because we are going to predictably be a worse team next year? Or because the payroll went down?

 

....

 

Put it this way, if we do in 2013 what the A's did in 2012, would the media still be upset because our payroll is low and Loria profits from a successful team?

 

 

 

 

well both. I mean if for the sake of argument this team is basically what takes the field on opening day 2013, there is a very small chance that team is going to be very good. It is true that the 2012 team was bad but the opening day roster is not what we had in September either so I don't think it's fair to sit on that 69 wins as a barometer.

Funny how the marlins didnt want to get rid of Reyes....but they did.

 

And Toronto insisted on us taking the cancer in Escobar.....and we took him.

 

 

Yea, I would have rather kept Bonifacio and let them keep Escobar. That seems to make a lot more sense considering one of the two SS we got will end up playing 2B or 3B anyway.

 

Escobar's the better player, for what it's worth.

 

Escobar has had the better career, but I think at this point Boni has more value. Offensively Escobar has more power but that's about it. Boni has game changing speed, and continues to get better at the plate every single year. Defensively their probably equals, but at least Boni is a natural 2B.

 

Honestly, the arguement could easily be made for one over the other. I just prefer Boni, personally.

Buster Olney �@Buster_ESPN

Before the megatrade was made, the Marlins talked with the D-Backs about shortstop Jose Reyes as they assessed the market

Buster Olney �@Buster_ESPN

Before the megatrade was made, the Marlins talked with the D-Backs about shortstop Jose Reyes as they assessed the market

 

 

Ok, thanks Olney. That was a really important piece of useless information...

I think what we're all angry about is that we suck ass. And the ownership sucks ass, because they make decisions that suck ass.

 

You can't win 10ore games and call it a success, we're NEVER in the playoffs. I don't give a sh*t about contending for a wildcArd if we never make the playoffs.

 

I want the post season. Repeatedly, like 5 seasons in a row, something finally exciting. We never get there.

 

It feels like whenever we're on a road to somewhere Loria or whoever the owner is just prematurely ejaculates on a child and suddenly were a farm team again.

 

It sucks.