enterthemadness Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Fire Redmond? Oh...just no. This team has gone through managers like crazy. Joe in 06 for one year. Freddie for like 3 or so years. Then you had Edwin, then Trader Jack, then Ozzie, now Red. All since 2006. That's a sign of a weak organ--well, Loria is owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 What do you expect him to do? This team is just not good. We're going to be at the bottom of the NL again, and that's not going to change until these players develop. I expect him to be a better manager. The team being bad is no excuse for some of the in-game moves that he's been making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I would be quite open to this but if it did not go well then he would likely leave the organization which I would not like. are the broadcasters employed by the Marlins or by Fox Sports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada-marlin24 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 are the broadcasters employed by the Marlins or by Fox Sports? Actually, Fox Sports. But I dont think he would stick around after that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97marlin Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 We won. We have the highest OBP in baseball. Whatever he and the front office has done has worked. We are third in runs scored. We have improved significantly. The manager doesn't matter anyway. The "stupid" decisions he makes even out after all of the "risky" moves he makes that do work out. The drills that are being done by individual players are a joint discussion among all of the coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofthefish Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Red is no better or worse than most managers, he could do some things differently, but it kind of all boils down to what he has to work with, which ain't much. Realistically a 10 game improvement is about all anyone can reasonably expect from this team. Also given the other options out there I would just as soon keep him, let him and the kids develop, but hey feel free to send in your resume to GM Jennings, I'm sure he could use a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Jesus. The guy makes a few questionable decisions and some want him fired. The only one that made zero sense was bunting Ozuna -- it was like he suddenly lost faith in one of his best young hitters because of the mere possibility of hitting into a DP. Red doesn't get a choice on platoons, not yet anyway. Jones was signed based on the understanding he would play full-time. Same with McGehee. Getting around that will take a month or two -- failure will free Red's hands. As for Marmol, either they're right about him modifying his delivery in winter ball or not. Meanwhile, he's gonna be tossed into important, late situations to sink or swim. Red is following orders: find out if he's worth a sh!t or not. Orders with which he probably agrees. So far, mostly so good. This board is perverse. They hit up a storm and the instant opinion is not just that they will probably revert a bit but that the offense will totally fail. Headed for last place. Lose a few games and all pitching is overrated. Defense sucks. Only the last is somewhat true. At the same time, they've made some great plays. This is probably a .500 team, but could easily be better. Contend? Probably not, but the difference is about 8 wins and anything can happen. Fire Redmond? Ridiculous. If he bunts Ozuna 2 years from now in the same situation, OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 You guys clearly don't appreciate the value of intangibles. I mean... the guy won a *World Series* show some respect. Veteran leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fauowls44 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Yes, what this team needs is yet another new manager... Is Redmond perfect? Of course not, but nothing he has done so far as Marlins manager is worthy of getting him fired. You also have to realize that he's only in his 4th full year of managing at any level. He's fine (most managers are fine) and he'll get better. Let him continue to develop in the role. Changing course AGAIN at the position helps nobody. I don't agree with every decision he makes, but you can nitpick about every manager. The team seems to like him and plays hard for him. I'm good with that for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Ram Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 You guys clearly don't appreciate the value of intangibles. I mean... the guy won a *World Series* show some respect. Veteran leadership. Im ok with letting Red be and develop, but let's not act like the perception of intangibles come close to outweighing tangible facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Balderdash. Winners need winners. :)Nobody appreciates my sarcasm. Those on mobile will read this whiteout sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Bunting with Ozuna was his worst offense with me so far, and some questionable bullpen choices, but I'd let him play out the whole season and see if he improves. Afterall, we're not supposed to be contending this season anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 He has made some odd moves but I don't think he deserves to be fired. The players seem to love him too which is huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 He has made some odd moves but I don't think he deserves to be fired. The players seem to love him too which is huge. I'm in Admin's camp except odd is a bit generous of a term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 http://www.therunnersports.com/2014/04/21/ends-means-justification-miami-marlins/ I threw together a quick article about Friday's bunt fest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Why is Solano playing every day all of the sudden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Why is Solano playing every day all of the sudden? DD's D according to Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Ew. Oh, that D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 DD's D according to Red He could decide to field left handed tomorrow and he would still be the better option with an OPS exceeding 1.000, this is so dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 He has made some odd moves but I don't think he deserves to be fired. The players seem to love him too which is huge. He didn't deserve to be hired in the first place. He wasn't qualified and it clearly shows now with his disastrous in-game management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarlinPride Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Maybe start Dietrich from now on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I also don't understand the "players love him so we can't get rid of him" line. It's not like he's the only manager out there capable of getting along with those guys. I'm sure there is someone out there who gets along well with younger players and actually excels in making decisions too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I also don't understand the "players love him so we can't get rid of him" line. It's not like he's the only manager out there capable of getting along with those guys. I'm sure there is someone out there who gets along well with younger players and actually excels in making decisions too. Because you'll create a disconnect, even if it's just temporary. A bad month can tank your season. Not saying we are competing now anyway, but anyone who says that team chemistry doesn't exist, doesn't mean anything, or doesn't play a factor in success has never played sports themselves. Bad teams with good chemistry play above their abilities, 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I'm not literally suggesting that the Marlins make a managerial change in April. However, if he still shows his at a certain point in the season, you absolutely fire him. The players are grown-ups; they are capable of dealing with. Keeping a manager around who makes idiotic decisions just to keep team chemistry intact is idiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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