Erick Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I've had just about enough of him. He is a terrible manager. Not that someone else is going to make this team win, but it'd be nice to see the right moves made for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackRubysDog Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Only Red knew Marmol would save that inning in three pitches. He is a genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Seriously, throw Billy the Marlin in there (name him William the Marlin, so we can take him more seriously) and he can't possibly make worse moves than Redmond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I know that fans always complain about the team's manager, but in this case Redmond is visibly terrible at his job. He's probably the most incompetent manager in the franchise's history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_Marlins25 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Call me crazy but i believe Tommy Hutton would be a great manager and should be our next manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Call me crazy but i believe Tommy Hutton would be a great manager and should be our next manager. Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 While I agree Redmond doesn't really know how to manage, it does seem like the players really like him/gel which perhaps is reason enough to keep him around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarlinPride Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 What did he do today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Me Some Fish Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 He's working undercover for Jeffey and no one is falling for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 He's working undercover for Jeffey and no one is falling for it. Jeffrey actually doesn't seem to like him much, actually... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 One thing I disagreed with was when Mathis was up in the 5th with 1st and 3rd, one out, down one run, and he had him swinging. Mathis is a shit hitter, but he's not a bad bunter. Perfect squeeze spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love Me Some Fish Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Jeffrey actually doesn't seem to like him much, actually... That's what he wants us to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
used up Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Is Dietrich taking 250 grounders a day. Is Salty working on "move you body not just your hands drills?" Is Jones working on his footwork at first? I doubt any of it. Redmond does't have a confrontational bone in his body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 One thing I disagreed with was when Mathis was up in the 5th with 1st and 3rd, one out, down one run, and he had him swinging. Mathis is a s*** hitter, but he's not a bad bunter. Perfect squeeze spot. I've noticed he doesn't believe in the squeeze play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I've noticed he doesn't believe in the squeeze play. Seems like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada-marlin24 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Call me crazy but i believe Tommy Hutton would be a great manager and should be our next manager. I would be quite open to this but if it did not go well then he would likely leave the organization which I would not like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada-marlin24 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 That's what he wants us to think. Is this true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroFishOne Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Other than some of the just dumbfounding moves he's made this year, it still infuriates me the way he handled the Jose/braves situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retnuhrace Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I still think Edwin got a bad rap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I really liked Edwin Rodriguez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 One thing I disagreed with was when Mathis was up in the 5th with 1st and 3rd, one out, down one run, and he had him swinging. Mathis is a s*** hitter, but he's not a bad bunter. Perfect squeeze spot. Mathis shouldn't have been playing today at all. It's a day game after a night game so it's understandable why he played. With that said, it would've made more sense to play Mathis last night and saved Saltalamacchia for today's day game. We faced a lefty last night and a righty today. It would've made much more sense to play Mathis against the lefty and Salty against the righty. Salty struggles against a left-handed pitching so any time there's a chance to give him a rest, it should be when a lefty is on the mound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 What did he do today? Well, I already mentioned the Salty/Mathis thing. In the game today alone, he let Garrett Jones face a lefty specialist in a key moment in the game with right-handed hitters available on the bench. He also brought in Dan Jennings for no reason. It didn't hurt us because Marmol bailed him out (which is another questionable move to bring in Carlos Marmol of all people with the bases loaded). Either way, Caminero was doing just fine and he ended up wasting a couple of relievers for no real reason, imo. He overmanaged. I didn't mind him as much last year probably because the team sucked and had no hope. The team is a bit better this year though so it's more apparent. We also have a bunch of platoon players on the team, but he's ignored splits plenty of times already. It's pretty annoying how this organization seems to completely ignore the #'s sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I've had just about enough of him. He is a terrible manager. Not that someone else is going to make this team win, but it'd be nice to see the right moves made for a change. What do you expect him to do? This team is just not good. We're going to be at the bottom of the NL again, and that's not going to change until these players develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dim Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I really liked Edwin Rodriguez. Edwin got fired ("resigned") because the offense got incredibly, incredibly incredibly cold in a 20 game stretch in June. If I'm not mistaken I think the team was in fairly good position, then went 1-19 to start off the season, with pressure from Loria and the front office forcing him to step down. Edwin was great handling the players, great handling the bullpen, and showed incredible fire that really lit an ass under the team. You could tell in that June dry spell that the fire was gone, and he was burnt out from all the pressure he was likely dealing with. I love Edwin, and he's personally one of my three or four favorite managers the Marlins have ever had, but I'm not exactly sure he was ready to take on the manager role. I'm not saying he wasn't ready from an ability standpoint, but he probably needed to build up a better resume as a minor league manager so that he would've been able to take the brunt of the punishment he dealt with during the horrible June we had. Not to say Redmond had any experience advantage when given the job last year. We all knew back then and still know right now that he was given the job because he is willing to consent to Loria and the front office's will whenever necessary. He's a good players manager, as I'm sure all the guys on the team respect and like him. I'm sure he gives good instructions and is a great teacher to the young players especially. But as an in game manager, he is truly awful. Still, this is year 2 of his managerial experience, and in my opinion this is the first season he's actually had major league caliber talent to work with. Once he starts managing the bullpen better, stops bunting guys at the stupidest times, doesn't put on shifts at the worst times, platoons guys properly and grows some balls to take some real chances, he'll be a good manager. I'm willing to be patient with him, just as I was willing to give every manager we've ever had a chance. But if he starts going all Fredi on us long term, I and everybody here am going to turn on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarlinPride Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Well, I already mentioned the Salty/Mathis thing. In the game today alone, he let Garrett Jones face a lefty specialist in a key moment in the game with right-handed hitters available on the bench. He also brought in Dan Jennings for no reason. It didn't hurt us because Marmol bailed him out (which is another questionable move to bring in Carlos Marmol of all people with the bases loaded). Either way, Caminero was doing just fine and he ended up wasting a couple of relievers for no real reason, imo. He overmanaged. I didn't mind him as much last year probably because the team sucked and had no hope. The team is a bit better this year though so it's more apparent. We also have a bunch of platoon players on the team, but he's ignored splits plenty of times already. It's pretty annoying how this organization seems to completely ignore the #'s sometimes. I feel like he's one of those "feel for the game" type managers in the sense that since he played, he thinks he has a sense for what's best when in reality stats show he's completely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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