No way Marlins trade for Buxton, everybody knows he would only gives you 200 PA a season. 

Frustrated, frustrated and really very frustrated. I believe every team wants to compete in the next season would extends Marte if they have the situation the Marlins have in the last trade deadline, it's really a no-brain to extend him with that 4/50~60 asking price. 

Why ? because you have no better options in the FA market and you just won't forfeit all your top prospects for one of Reynolds, Ketel and Buxton (he's even a injury prone).

Ng said they want to spend wisely and extend Marte is just the best way to use their money wisely, but they just lowballing him in the extension offers knowing he would have a much higher asking price in the off-season and his excellent performance with the A's just made it worse. 

Their reluctance to extend Marte before the trade deadline just made people doubt their determination to compete because it's just no way to give up the chance to sign him with $50~60MM first and then try to sign him with $80~90MM after that. 

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/miami-marlins/article255816541.html

Ng seems want to make some moves before the December 1, but also said it would depending on the players and agents. 

 

21 hours ago, rmc523 said:

Regardless, I hope they figure something out.......this team needs to make moves just to get even with where we were last year with Marte, and there were holes as it was then, they obviously need to go above and beyond that to fill those holes.

To get even offensively, absolutely. But I think it’s worth acknowledging that the starting pitching looks even stronger since Cabrera matured, Sixto hopefully rejoins at some point, Meyer may be ready next year.

2 minutes ago, mystikol87 said:

To get even offensively, absolutely. But I think it’s worth acknowledging that the starting pitching looks even stronger since Cabrera matured, Sixto hopefully rejoins at some point, Meyer may be ready next year.

Would be a shame to waste all this pitching by not adding to the offense.

37 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

Would be a shame to waste all this pitching by not adding to the offense.

Agreed, and that’s perhaps the most distressing part.

18 hours ago, QbanCastillo said:

Buxton is too injury-prone for my liking. This FO just seems to love taking the high-risk gamble for the sake of possibly hitting the lotto on an all-star player. What happens when Buxton goes out for most of the season and they have no backup besides maybe DLC and Brinson again? They get stuck in the same whole as last season.

The fixation on Buxton seems to be "injury-prone, star-caliber player we can possibly get on a reasonable contract because of the injury risk".  Aka they're too cheap to sign a real star, so let's get this guy because it might be affordable for us.  But as pointed out, he's played 1 full season in 7 years.  Doesn't do any good to have a star caliber player if he's not playing most of the time.

If we get him, ok at least we did something (hopefully not the only move as well), but I'm hesitant/skeptical of the move personally.

1 hour ago, mystikol87 said:

To get even offensively, absolutely. But I think it’s worth acknowledging that the starting pitching looks even stronger since Cabrera matured, Sixto hopefully rejoins at some point, Meyer may be ready next year.

Offense was the problem, so yes, I'm referring to offensively.

As we saw, you can hold other teams to 1-2 runs a night.....doesn't do any good if you can't score 2-3 to top them and win.  And yes, pitching and defense, but you need at least a competent offense to make pure "pitching and defense" work.

They should also get a competent game caller at catcher as well with all this pitching, tbh. 

4 minutes ago, Das Texan said:

They should also get a competent game caller at catcher as well with all this pitching, tbh. 

We all know CF and C are (or should be) the primary/priority positions to upgrade.

2 hours ago, taiwanmarlin said:

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/miami-marlins/article255816541.html

Ng seems want to make some moves before the December 1, but also said it would depending on the players and agents. 

 

In other words, "We kicked the tires on some players and we tried but they didn't like our (low and cheap) offer.".... I swear, this FO / ownership thinks that our farm system is gonna completely right the ship (negating the need to spend on big name FAs).  While we have some good pieces on the farm, do we have an elite prospect or two that can reverse this team's fortunes? (and are ready to go now instead of in 2 or 3 years - Salas intrigues me TBH)

Edited November 21, 20214 yr by CyggyMarlin

My cat is waiting for the Marlins to sign some good players.

 

5 minutes ago, Michael said:

My cat is waiting for the Marlins to sign some good players.

It's really your cat ? how many cat you have ?

6 minutes ago, taiwanmarlin said:

 

Let's hope. Signing Sandy longterm would be a good start, though obviously with a lot more work to do this off-season.

7 minutes ago, Michael said:

My cat is waiting for the Marlins to sign some good players.

Jeter and Sherman are just actively abusing your cat.

1 hour ago, taiwanmarlin said:

It's really your cat ? how many cat you have ?

Is really my cat. I have one cat but we may be holding a second for a little bit.

I wonder how creative we are going to be with this great starting pitching. Meyer, sixto And/or Cabrera to the bullpen? 6 man rotation? 
 

I just hope they don’t trade sandy, Pablo or Hernandez. I think this depth is useful and our competitive advantage to other teams

4 hours ago, SonOfJack said:

Let's hope. Signing Sandy longterm would be a good start, though obviously with a lot more work to do this off-season.

"We were going to sign some bats, but we allocated those funds to a Sandy extension instead."

2 hours ago, Morientes50 said:

I wonder how creative we are going to be with this great starting pitching. Meyer, sixto And/or Cabrera to the bullpen? 6 man rotation? 
 

I just hope they don’t trade sandy, Pablo or Hernandez. I think this depth is useful and our competitive advantage to other teams

1. Welcome to the site!

2. I could definitely see someone like Meyer called up as a bullpen arm at first to ease him into the Majors and Sixto as well to build up his arm. I think Ed's going to be rotation all the way through, but we shall see.

I wouldn't be against trading Elieser and to an extent Pablo, but the return for Pablo has to be right. Can't just give him away cause we have depth. I'm about 55/45 in favor of keeping him.

Just extend Sandy and don't even entertain a trade idea.

28 minutes ago, Michael said:

 

Just extend Sandy and don't even entertain a trade idea.

Sandy will be traded straight up for Chad Wallach

8 minutes ago, CyggyMarlin said:

Sandy will be traded straight up for Chad Wallach

Chad is a free agent so we would be traded Sandy to the void.

52 minutes ago, Michael said:

Chad is a free agent so we would be traded Sandy to the void.

Exactly!

2 hours ago, CyggyMarlin said:

Sandy will be traded straight up for Chad Wallach

we need a catcher don't we ?

If Marlins didn't make at least one big move before the lockout then it would be a long long long off-season …

8 hours ago, Michael said:

1. Welcome to the site!

2. I could definitely see someone like Meyer called up as a bullpen arm at first to ease him into the Majors and Sixto as well to build up his arm. I think Ed's going to be rotation all the way through, but we shall see.

I wouldn't be against trading Elieser and to an extent Pablo, but the return for Pablo has to be right. Can't just give him away cause we have depth. I'm about 55/45 in favor of keeping him.

Just extend Sandy and don't even entertain a trade idea.

Thanks. I agree sandy needs to stay. He has the build of a guy that can stay healthy. He doesn’t need to max out to reach 97mph

but, imo, we shouldn’t trade the others either unless we can get awesome talent. We should keep pitching depth and use free agency to get hitters