fish53 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Seems to me that the thinking is to save the more experienced Pablo instead of putting Sixto in a must win situation. But if you feel better about Pablo in such a situation, then the McKeon rule should apply as it did in 03 deciding on not saving Beckett for a game 7 and going with him to end it in six and not even get there. I think Pablo was originally penciled in for game 2, but they did not call to tell me why the change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, fish53 said: I think Pablo was originally penciled in for game 2, but they did not call to tell me why the change. Sixto was announced as the game 2 starter prior to the series beginning. Though it could've changed of course if they lost yesterday, it is a mystery if it would have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarPik Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, SonOfJack said: Sixto was announced as the game 2 starter prior to the series beginning. Though it could've changed of course if they lost yesterday, it is a mystery if it would have. Were you able to get some sleep last night? I got a solid 3 hours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, GuitarPik said: Were you able to get some sleep last night? I got a solid 3 hours. I slept for 3-4 hours but oddly I feel more refreshed than when I get my standard 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, fish53 said: Seems to me that the thinking is to save the more experienced Pablo instead of putting Sixto in a must win situation. But if you feel better about Pablo in such a situation, then the McKeon rule should apply as it did in 03 deciding on not saving Beckett for a game 7 and going with him to end it in six and not even get there. I think Pablo was originally penciled in for game 2, but they did not call to tell me why the change. I'm with you. And I love the McKeon line. Jack said that he went with Beckett in game 6 because he didn't want to get to game 7. I was thinking the same thing with "saving" Pablo for tomorrow, it's weird. With that said, winning game 1 is what makes this tolerable but if we had lost game 1 I'd be freaking out about today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8yrGator Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I will say this. Sixto against a team that has never seen his stuff sounds fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, GatorsfortheMarlins said: I will say this. Sixto against a team that has never seen his stuff sounds fun. This is our biggest secret weapon for basically the entire playoffs with the exception of the Braves. This is not mentioned enough. It could be a huge difference maker. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsmaniac Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Sixto’s last two starts have us forgetting how dominant he is. Make no mistake about it, Sixto is our #1, he just has to trust his stuff, establish the inside part of the plate (not try to nibble low and away where hitters can poke something the other way), and make these dudes earn it. As long as he pitches aggressively with the fastball and hits his spots with the offspeed pitches, Sixto is as unbeatable as any pitcher in the game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish53 Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 45 minutes ago, marlinsmaniac said: Sixto’s last two starts have us forgetting how dominant he is. Make no mistake about it, Sixto is our #1, he just has to trust his stuff, establish the inside part of the plate (not try to nibble low and away where hitters can poke something the other way), and make these dudes earn it. As long as he pitches aggressively with the fastball and hits his spots with the offspeed pitches, Sixto is as unbeatable as any pitcher in the game. This brings to mind the matter of the home plate ump. Yesterday was one of the more consistent performances from a HP ump I have seen recently. They have been, overall, horrible around the league. Nibbling and not getting the calls on the edges forces more pitches to the middle. So, hopefully, we jump out ahead and just fire away when the shadows start creeping in. Can't hit a 100 mph fastball when you can't see it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsmaniac Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, fish53 said: This brings to mind the matter of the home plate ump. Yesterday was one of the more consistent performances from a HP ump I have seen recently. They have been, overall, horrible around the league. Nibbling and not getting the calls on the edges forces more pitches to the middle. So, hopefully, we jump out ahead and just fire away when the shadows start creeping in. Can't hit a 100 mph fastball when you can't see it. I’m gonna light a candle for the shadow gods lol And definitely, I wish they’d leave that umpire behind the plate today, he was great IMO. You also can’t hit a 100 MPH fastball up and in when you’re protecting against a changeup low and out of the zone. His fastball has arm side run that, when pitched inside freezes lefties and breaks righties bats. But if they keep pitching on the outside corner then you’re letting hitters lean out over the plate, ignore 2/3 of the strike zone, and roll something the other way through the shift (we saw that a lot in one of his last starts) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Yesterday’s HP ump should be the HP ump for the entire series. Heck once teams are in the bubble, have him be HP ump for every game. He was that good. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, SonOfJack said: Yesterday’s HP ump should be the HP ump for the entire series. Heck once teams are in the bubble, have him be HP ump for every game. He was that good. ah yes, the bubble with 12,000 fans in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, SongInTheAir said: ah yes, the bubble with 12,000 fans in it. Yeah, I don't understand that move at all. Why bother having a bubble at that point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, SongInTheAir said: ah yes, the bubble with 12,000 fans in it. #ManfredThings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.618 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Pablo has been great this year specially in big moments. But he's not an ace. He reminds me of a prime Aníbal Sanchez right now. Sixto is a generational pitcher with the potential to be our next Jose Fernandez. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, jeffreysfishfry said: Pablo has been great this year specially in big moments. But he's not an ace. He reminds me of a prime Aníbal Sanchez right now. This is actually not a bad comparison. Anibal was definitely stronger at the start of his career than Pablo but was fairly average for the most part after. Yet when Anibal was on, no hit stuff. Can't tell you how many times he took a no hitter into the 8th or 9th, and not talking about the one he DID complete in 06. Pablo outside of two starts this year was very very good. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovertical Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, SonOfJack said: Yesterday’s HP ump should be the HP ump for the entire series. Heck once teams are in the bubble, have him be HP ump for every game. He was that good. agreed, the wife and I, (who had to DVR and watch most of the game AFTER work....(11am start out here) kept being shocked that he was NAILING the ball and strikes with such precision it's almost like someone was in his ear telling him which was which. He was literally THAT on point for the game. I watched some pieces of other games last night too and umps were also really nailing down the correct strike zone for the most part. Where were these guys ALL SEASON LONG?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photo-Realistic Billy Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I didn't know that was a thing, i wanna see some bad ones just to laugh. But that's super cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish53 Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, SilverBullet said: I didn't know that was a thing, i wanna see some bad ones just to laugh. But that's super cool. Would love to see Angel Hernandez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Photo-Realistic Billy Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, SilverBullet said: I didn't know that was a thing, i wanna see some bad ones just to laugh. But that's super cool. Don't worry. CB Bucknor's got you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Is this something official in any way or is this done by fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photo-Realistic Billy Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, SilverBullet said: Is this something official in any way or is this done by fans? Fans. Though it's my understanding umpires do use this info to try to improve. I mean, re-watch a game from 1997, and it's very obvious the strikezone is wayyyy better now, but still pretty garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, SonOfJack said: Yesterday’s HP ump should be the HP ump for the entire series. Heck once teams are in the bubble, have him be HP ump for every game. He was that good. Jeter should pay him to call all of our games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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