10 minutes ago, taiwanmarlin said:

I'm done for this day, bye everyone. 

See you in two hours. 

1 minute ago, Michael said:

See you in two hours. 

The man needs some sleep, its 1 AM there

28 minutes ago, CyggyMarlin said:

Not really seeing any trusted sources on Twitter right now posting about the possibility of a signing.... is that a sign to worry?

Another year of "we tried" and getting players like Joc Pederson. SSDY

3 minutes ago, SilverBullet said:

Probably the only "Ace" in Marlins chat today

The news on Conforto has been pretty quiet, I almost forgot he was another option out there.

6 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

The news on Conforto has been pretty quiet, I almost forgot he was another option out there.

How is he in center?

Just now, SilverBullet said:

How is he in center?

Eh

1 minute ago, Michael said:

Eh

 

1 hour ago, MarlinsLou said:

Here's an idea.

Laureano and Tony Kemp - Something like Bleday/Burdick, Salas/Eder, Lewis, and maybe Fulton? Laureano has 3 years of control and Kemp 2. They are cheap payroll wise. This is painful with giving away 4 guys we like, but this is the preserve Watson/Eury/Cabrera/Meyer hypothetical trade idea. I think Oakland goes for it for radically upgraded 3rd and 4th players.

Sign Soler. Let's bash.

Sign Ryan Tepera and Daniel Duffy, for similar money to Kenley

Dump Aguilar and Bass for payroll savings.

Stallings, Fortes/Jackson
Cooper (Anderson plays here a bit)
Jazz 
Rojas, Wendle
Anderson (Wendle plays here a bit)
Sanchez, T. Kemp
Laureano
Garcia, DLC
Soler(DH)

Sandy, Rogers, Pablo, Hernandez, Luzardo
Floro, Bender, Tepera, Cabrera, Pop
Duffy, Bleier, Okert 

Duffy, Hernandez, and Cabrera are 100-120 IP pitchers thrown in waves. Effectively, they are 300+ innings over a SP and 2 RP spots which lines up. I know Duffy is a little banged up, but we're going upside and..... Sixto and Meyer are coming

 

This works

 

Edit - This works if you accept a 28 day circus in CF until Laureano is off suspension. I will accept that if it keeps the core top 4 prospects. Pray to god Sanchez/Garcia/Kemp can do it.

Bleday & Eder/Salas feels like a lot for Laureano. I’m not even the biggest Bleday guy (think Miami F’d him up), but that feels like a lot for a guy whose stock should be at an all time low

My issue with Laureano is im not sure he’s what this team is missing. Yes, we need a CF. But more than anything we need a true #3 hitter. This roster is filled with #5/6 hitters ideally. We need that true, #3 hitter that can be counted on night in and night out. Reynolds (and Mullins to an extent) are interesting because they solve both spots. Laureano, great defender, good hitter for a CFer, but I don’t think he moves the needle enough 

Edited March 16, 20224 yr by marlins_09

7 minutes ago, marlins_09 said:

My issue with Laureano is im not sure he’s what this team is missing. Yes, we need a CF. But more than anything we need a true #3 hitter. This roster is filled with #5/6 hitters ideally. We need that true, #3 hitter that can be counted on night in and night out. Reynolds (and Mullins to an extent) are interesting because they solve both spots. Laureano, great defender, good hitter for a CFer, but I don’t think he moves the needle enough 

I think Aguilar or Cooper can fill that role well enough. Cooper maybe moreso, and we'll hopefully find out this year.

Edit - rather, within the current roster construction. If we add Reynolds or someone then yes put em there (or 2nd).

6 minutes ago, Michael said:

I think Aguilar or Cooper can fill that role well enough. Cooper maybe moreso, and we'll hopefully find out this year.

Edit - rather, within the current roster construction. If we add Reynolds or someone then yes put em there (or 2nd).

Sure, anyone can hit 3rd. But that true #3 hitter is what this team is missing if they actually want to be competitive. If you’re going to give up Bleday and Salas/Eder and make your “splash” don’t just add another 2 or 5-6 hitter. Go get your damn guy 

2 hours ago, SilverBullet said:

I wonder if the Pirates are dicking around in any way. They don't need to trade him, might they be making an unrealistic ask? 

Why wouldnt they ask for an unrealistic ask though?

They have ZERO reason to move him.  Unless they are blown away just let him be on their roster.

 

25 minutes ago, Das Texan said:

Why wouldnt they ask for an unrealistic ask though?

They have ZERO reason to move him.  Unless they are blown away just let him be on their roster.

 

I mostly agree with you, but allow me to play devils advocate. How do they plan to be competitive with Reynolds? You’ve got 4 years to rebuild an entire pitching staff/offense. He’s already turned down 2 long term offers (per Mish). 

Best case scenario is you hit on some value signings and they’re somewhat competitive on the last year of his deal. Then what? Do you trade him then? When he’s less valuable and you’re in the midst of finally being competitive?

OR, they use this as a chance to acquire some real pitching prospects, some decent bat prospects, build around Hayes, O’Neil, Bleday(?), Meyer, Fulton, etc. 

Youre still going to have to overpay and rightfully so, but there’s a real competitive  reason for trading him. I do have reservations if they have that type of vision however 
 

Edited March 16, 20224 yr by marlins_09

23 minutes ago, marlins_09 said:

I mostly agree with you, but allow me to play devils advocate. How do they plan to be competitive with Reynolds? You’ve got 4 years to rebuild an entire pitching staff/offense.

[Edit - everyone downvote this, I'm dumb and earned it]

The pitching rotation is already there. The hard part is done. Get the bats, of which Reynolds is one. What do you mean an "entire pitching staff"? Bullpen maybe, but again, the rotation being strong helps that out.

Offense needs some work, but with a breakout or two, we're pretty much right there.

3 minutes ago, Michael said:

The pitching rotation is already there. The hard part is done. Get the bats, of which Reynolds is one. What do you mean an "entire pitching staff"? Bullpen maybe, but again, the rotation being strong helps that out.

Offense needs some work, but with a breakout or two, we're pretty much right there.

My post was in reference to Pitt. What they need and why they would/should consider trading Reynolds 

9 minutes ago, marlins_09 said:

My post was in reference to Pitt. What they need and why they would/should consider trading Reynolds 

I totally misread that, my bad.

13 minutes ago, Michael said:

The pitching rotation is already there. The hard part is done. Get the bats, of which Reynolds is one. What do you mean an "entire pitching staff"? Bullpen maybe, but again, the rotation being strong helps that out.

Offense needs some work, but with a breakout or two, we're pretty much right there.

Everyone downvote this post. Right now.

2 hours ago, SilverBullet said:

Ok but Kyle Schwarber shouldn't have been the tipping point. He can't play CF for us.

True but he’d have been a hell of a DH I’ll tell you that.

2 minutes ago, marlinsmaniac said:

True but he’d have been a hell of a DH I’ll tell you that.

No put him at shortstop.

7 minutes ago, Michael said:

Everyone downvote this post. Right now.

Odd request, but ok

1 hour ago, marlins_09 said:

Sure, anyone can hit 3rd. But that true #3 hitter is what this team is missing if they actually want to be competitive. If you’re going to give up Bleday and Salas/Eder and make your “splash” don’t just add another 2 or 5-6 hitter. Go get your damn guy 

That guy doesn't exist unless they sign Correa. That's an issue. Reynolds or Ketel would be the closest thing, but they aren't exactly Bryce Harper even if very good. I guess maybe Bryant could be this.

So you do the next best thing, build out a top to bottom deep roster so everything is competitive. The Rays have been doing that for years with great success, even without a world series. I think Laureano, Kemp, Soler, Tepera, and Duffy, and jettisoning Aguilar, Bass, and non-core 4 prospects (Bleday/Burdick, Salas/Eder, Fulton, etc. to Oakland) gets you there pretty quickly. Might be a sneaky 40 WAR projectable team with major room to grow with Jazz/Sanchez/Luzardo/etc.

Just now, SonOfJack said:

Odd request, but ok

I meant the post I quoted, you dingleberry. ❤️