4/70?

2 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

4/70?

probably more. 

1 minute ago, Das Texan said:

probably more. 

Even if that is fully guaranteed?

Just now, SonOfJack said:

Even if that is fully guaranteed?

MLB Trade Rumors predicts 4/80

Bowden predicts 4/105

 

There is your general range.  All guaranteed. 

I’m good on not winning the Marte bidding war. Great player and glad I was able to watch him in a marlins uni, but I don’t think he’s the best way to spend whatever $$$ we have available. With both NY teams and seemingly multiple other teams involved, he’s going to get paiddd

 

Where is Sandy's contract extension ? don't want to pay him ?

4 minutes ago, Das Texan said:

MLB Trade Rumors predicts 4/80

Bowden predicts 4/105

 

There is your general range.  All guaranteed. 

They won't go to 105. I am not confident they'd even go 80. So yeah they probably won't get him if that ends up being accurate.

2 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

They won't go to 105. I am not confident they'd even go 80. So yeah they probably won't get him if that ends up being accurate.

also kinda shows how fucking laughable the reported offer over the summer was tbh. 

 

Until proven otherwise, with all action and reports, this ownership is far and away cheaper and more miserly than the Jeff Loria ran Marlins. 

3 minutes ago, taiwanmarlin said:

 

Where is Sandy's contract extension ? don't want to pay him ?

WOW

5 minutes ago, Das Texan said:

also kinda shows how fucking laughable the reported offer over the summer was tbh. 

 

Until proven otherwise, with all action and reports, this ownership is far and away cheaper and more miserly than the Jeff Loria ran Marlins. 

This off-season would deciding the 16 Marlins fans continue to be the Marlins fan or not. 

Pay your good players, that's the bottom line. 

Edited November 16, 20214 yr by taiwanmarlin

Sons of bitches.

 

The more things change the more the more they stay the same.

I've seen this story before

Notice a sense of urgency around the league so far from teams that missed the playoffs in 2021.

Marlins? Crickets.

Just now, SonOfJack said:

I've seen this story before

Its amazing once you see the light!

3 hours ago, SilverBullet said:

The thing with going after Marte now though, the Marlins negotiated with him before so if they really want him they'll know what they need to offer. If they're just doing it to say they went after him but don't really want him then this doesn't matter but if they want him they'll offer the fourth year this time.

I don't see why they'd even bother if they weren't serious about re-signing him.

1 hour ago, taiwanmarlin said:

Pay your good players, that's the bottom line. 

They need to lock Sandy up before his price tag keeps climbing from these other deals.

1 hour ago, Michael said:

Sons of bitches.

 

Morons.

Sell the team if you're not going to actually do anything a franchise should do

1 hour ago, rmc523 said:

I don't see why they'd even bother if they weren't serious about re-signing him.

To say they "tried."

Not extending Sandy, assuming Sandy is actually willing to an extension, would be more upsetting to me than them not doing everything else. This is something that's fully under their control and if they wanna do it they can. There's nothing holding that one back but them.

34 minutes ago, SilverBullet said:

To say they tried."

Worse than Loria.

he at least tried and got ink on contracts (stupidly) every few years. 

36 minutes ago, SilverBullet said:

To say they tried."

Something they've yet to actually do yeah

2 hours ago, Das Texan said:

Worse than Loria.

he at least tried and got ink on contracts (stupidly) every few years. 

I can't think of a single contract that Loria inked that he had to foot the bill for the big bucks. They were always super back loaded and the player was always traded (or he sold the team) before the real money kicked in. Delgado? Made about a fifth of his previous year's salary in the first year before being traded. Marlins ultimately only paid $11 M of his $60 M salary. Reyes? Buehrle? Bell? All had pay cuts in the first year of the deal and backloaded contracts that got paid off by another team. Chen? Only $12.5 M of his $80 M contract while Loria owned the team. Giancarlo? Only made $30 M of $325 M while Loria was the owner. Can you think of a single significant signing that Loria actually paid for? It was all smoke and mirrors with him. No substance.

3 minutes ago, FishFan95 said:

I can't think of a single contract that Loria inked that he had to foot the bill for the big bucks. They were always super back loaded and the player was always traded (or he sold the team) before the real money kicked in. Delgado? Made about a fifth of his previous year's salary in the first year before being traded. Marlins ultimately only paid $11 M of his $60 M salary. Reyes? Buehrle? Bell? All had pay cuts in the first year of the deal and backloaded contracts that got paid off by another team. Chen? Only $12.5 M of his $80 M contract while Loria owned the team. Giancarlo? Only made $30 M of $325 M while Loria was the owner. Can you think of a single significant signing that Loria actually paid for? It was all smoke and mirrors with him. No substance.

Regardless.

 

ink to paper.

Loria got it done.  Results are results, whether you like how they ended up or not.

Loria has still done something this ownership group refuses to do.

Get a player to agree to a multi year deal for significant dollars for that deal.

 

When Jeter and Sherman open up their wallets and actually get that done, then we can talk. 

3 hours ago, SilverBullet said:

There's nothing holding that one back but them

While I get what you're saying and agree to an extent, they also do have some control over free agency. Sure, the player has to be interested and other teams could create a bidding war. However, they haven't even tried in the past when they should have. Perfect example is Realmuto last off-season. What stopped them from even trying to sign him, besides themselves?