but other than wright, the 3B FA class is pretty pitiful. It makes me think we have no choice but to get Ott from the Rangers.

Different persepectives

 

LA- Why? I understand that you need a 3B or possibly SS with Gordon going down but Hanley is a LOOSE CANNON and when he's without his friend Jose Reyes he's going to cry daily.

 

MIA- Why? going back to the Florida Marlins days where we have no money and have to sell Miguel as Detroit slaps us on the ass over and over again. I understand that Hanley isn't very good anymore but that doesn't mean that he can't resort back to old ways at some point.

 

The marlins are a confusing team. They spend alot of money for the first time ever. Now we're selling all the players that we thought were going to get us to the playoffs. Embarrassing GM. Emabarrassing Owner. Embarrassing Franchise.

 

 

I don't know if any of you heard 790theticket this morning between 7:15 to 7:45. The discussion was what would the fan base think? The discussion was how little we got for Hanley? And then a discussion that Loria has his fingers too much in the pie--makes too many decisions.

 

And then a discussion about players we have cut saying they were washed up, couldn't play, etc., and have gone on to play better than here. Examples: Gonzalez, Castillo, Willingham, Maybin, Ross with the RED SOX now as designated hitter, Lowell was fine with the RED SOX, Alejando--can't remember last name.

 

Then from these examples what are the MARLINS lacking? Why do these examples do fine and awesome outside of South Florida? They mentioned the FO and expecially Loria. They also mentioned Guillen as not being able to handle the team. And one caller mentioned no leadership as a manager as well as no players are. Certainly Hanley wasn't one; he has never grown up.

 

Thoughts??

Who cares what the fan base thinks they (FO) are doing whats best for the team, I cannot sit here and assume that just because the FO doesn't do exactly what I want that they are now horrible people and trying to destroy the franchise, stuff happens, it's part of the game.

 

I agree that Loria should keep his nose out of things (see Bell) but he's the owner he's going to make comments and suggest things, even if it's not his place.

 

Gonzalez was not worth hanging on to, Castillo had his best years in Florida and didn't do much after that, Willingham was hurt, Maybin never panned out, Ross started to decline with the Marlins, and De Aza was hurt, no one thought he was going to bounce back and be this productive. The FO can't see the future they do whats best for the team and you have to really just trust that.

 

I will admit I don't like Guillen at all it was a stupid hire part of the "franchise" if you will.

Can ott play any other position? I would be fine with a JJ trade if we could get Ott to play 1b and get Wright in the offseason.

Alejandro De Aza. So important that people forget his last name.

 

Also, Cody has played 67 games for the Red Sox and I'm pretty sure their DH's name rhymes with Bavid Bortiz.

Hanley for Eovaldi is fine. i just don't get Choate being part of this deal.

Hanley was almost an Athletic

 

Lost in all the other madness of one of baseball's craziest overnights ever, did you notice that the low-budget, low-expectations A's moved percentage points ahead of the Angels and into second place in the American League West?

 

And that they still had a bad night?

 

The problem was that other Los Angeles team, the Dodgers, and their stunning late-night deal forHanley Ramirez.

 

The A's, as it turns out, were also in heavy on Hanley. And, according to sources, the Marlins offered Oakland a sweet deal within the last few days, one in which the A's would get Ramirez for a couple of minor-league players -- and the Marlins would pay about half the remaining money on Ramirez's contract.

 

The A's held off making the deal, because of concerns about a hand injury that has kept him out of the lineup since Friday. In the meantime, the Dodgers came in and agreed to take Ramirez's entire contract -- all $40 million of it.

 

That's great for the suddenly fire-selling Marlins. It's awful for the suddenly competitive A's.

 

The A's are still looking to add, and they do have backup plans. They've been scouting Stephen Drew, have had interest in Yunel Escobar, and have even kicked around the possibility of trying to bring hometown kid Jimmy Rollinsback to Oakland.

 

But none of those options excite them the way a possible Hanley trade did.

 

Not only that, but another of Tuesday night/Wednesday morning's huge stories could pose a problem for the A's. WithAlex Rodriguez headed to the disabled list with a broken hand, the Yankees suddenly become a contender for any third baseman that shows up on the market.

 

http://www.cbssports...nley-derby,-too

Jarrod Parker...

It is a shame we didn't do this right after the 'kicked ball' incident when Hanley still had other GMs salivating over his bat at SS.

God I hate this management. Same old Marlins.

 

 

I concur

Have no real problem with this deal but I think the best PR move now is to lock up Stanton long term and show he's the new face of the franchise. He was already on his way to that even with Hanley here.

 

As far as next year, hope we have a chance with David Wright.

Isn't Wright going to command a mega contract? Are there no better options?

 

Wish the FO had SOME contingency for 3B after trading Dominguez and seeing Hanley's performance thus far. Now they have to make stuff up on the fly.

Yea I don't see why they let go of choate. We probably could have easily re-signed choate and I don't really like Jennings.

Yea I don't see why they let go of choate. We probably could have easily re-signed choate and I don't really like Jennings.

 

 

jennings has been great in AAA and is going to e a solid lefty out of the pen.

Haven't read throug the entire thread, but does anyone think this means we make a Olt for JJ move now?

Wright is going to have that option picked up lol.

They keep saying on Marlins live all the players seem like they have breathed a sigh of relieve now that Hanley has been traded. Hanley may have blown on the field but I didn't hear anything about him being a problem in the club house this year.

Which bats would you buy? The list is very short and quality isn't there.

 

Assuming Texas doesn't extend Hamilton, Hamilton.

 

No reason to believe they won't go after him, if he's available. They tried Pujols, to the tune of 200+ mill, they tried CJ Wilson for big bucks, but he wanted to play in CA, they'll try anything they think will improve the team.

 

They failed with Bell and thinking Baby Hanley and LoMo and others would play up to their potential. Rather than dig in their heels and pray that the current bunch would recover, they've admitted to reality and are shaking it all up and changing the mix in a big way.

 

More power to them, it's exactly what should happen. I'll leave it to Beinfest to figure out which bats he wants to go after.

 

Now that they've gotten over their love-fest with Baby Hanley, perhaps they'll get more realistic about the rest of them.

 

The only people I want to see stay are Stanton, Reyes, Bonifacio, JJ, Buerhle, Ruggiano and Solano. Maybe Dobbs, but he's easily replaceable. That leaves 17 roster spots -- so let Beinfest have at it. He's got 2 starters so far, that leaves 15 spots.

 

With any luck Bell and Nolasco are gone before the deadline. More money for bats, later.

I go on vacation for a couple of days and come back to find Hanley, Anibal, and Infante gone.

 

Wow.

 

Like the two pitchers the Marlins got in the Tigers trade though.

They keep saying on Marlins live all the players seem like they have breathed a sigh of relieve now that Hanley has been traded. Hanley may have blown on the field but I didn't hear anything about him being a problem in the club house this year.

 

He was never not a problem.

We're not going to sign any big free agents after they see how quickly we had a fire sale after finally throwing around some money for once. Also Mike was right, this is the result of giving up all leverage by letting it be known that you desperately want a player gone. Please let's just get rid of this FO already.

I'd look towards signing BJ Upton to play CF next year. A good, young, solid player. Christian Yelich is coming up, so the Marlins should sign a stopgap LF for next year (maybe even stick with Ruggiano, but I'm worried about how bad that could turn out to be.)

 

As far as who plays 3B now: this needs to be addressed quickly, because there's no one in the minors to take that job. That JJ-for-Olt+ rumor is floating around - and that may be the route they decide to take.

Hard to judge the trade right away without knowing what the Marlins will do with the money. If they can land a top flight FA, it will ease the sting a little.

 

It's not like the team can play any worse without Hanley the rest of the season, and we were not going to win anything this year even with Hanley, so I'm not too butthurt about the trade other than its a strong indication of how desperate and cheap this team is in comparison to the rest of the league.

Hard to judge the trade right away without knowing what the Marlins will do with the money. If they can land a top flight FA, it will ease the sting a little.

 

It's not like the team can play any worse without Hanley the rest of the season, and we were not going to win anything this year even with Hanley, so I'm not too butthurt about the trade other than its a strong indication of how desperate and cheap this team is in comparison to the rest of the league.

 

 

How so?

Eovaldi is anibal sanchez part 2 without as many strikeouts. NEVER goes deep into games. this was a salary move. and a bad one at that.

 

It's only really been since 2011 that Anibal has begun to rack up the strikeouts......

BJ Upton sucks.

 

Can't hit for contact, meh power.

 

All he has is speed.

Hard to judge the trade right away without knowing what the Marlins will do with the money. If they can land a top flight FA, it will ease the sting a little.

 

It's not like the team can play any worse without Hanley the rest of the season, and we were not going to win anything this year even with Hanley, so I'm not too butthurt about the trade other than its a strong indication of how desperate and cheap this team is in comparison to the rest of the league.

 

 

How so?

 

There aint no telling. Theres a good reason why your seeing a bunch of people coming out of the woodwork right now to bash the trade, whether right or wrong.