July 25, 201214 yr Really don't like this trade at all. I'm not even sure why Choate was included in the deal. Yes, Hanley hasn't performed this last few years like he should have, but he has potential the type of potential that given a change of scenery Hanley can become a yearly Allstar/Silver Slugger-type player again. And for that we get a back-end of rotation starter and a minor leaguer that MAY break into the big leagues in a few years... I think the FO could have done a bit better at least, even considering it was salary dump move.
July 25, 201214 yr Really don't like this trade at all. I'm not even sure why Choate was included in the deal. Probably had to include him to get LA to take on the entire contract.
July 25, 201214 yr this is a bad move for the PR dept. Hopefully, they really do something good in the off season.
July 25, 201214 yr Also, what the heck can the FO possibly have in mind for 3B. The FA class, besides Wright, is pretty pathetic and we have absolutely nothing in our farm... Maybe Chris Coghlan might remember how to hit someday? I think he played 3B in the minors in the past but that is a long shot. We have nothing in the minor leagues as far as infielders are concerned. Not much to choose from in FA either. We'll have to get a 3B in a trade but other than Josh Johnson, the rest of our trade bait isn't going to net us much of a return. So, we either get Olt or someone of that caliber back in a trade for Johnson or we are screwed. Not a good situation for 3B right now. As a matter of fact that was one of our bigger problems in the past until we shifted Hanley over there this season. We've come full circle in the hot corner.
July 25, 201214 yr The Hanley trade is fine. Going to get Josh Hamilton would be a Loria move but I would oppose it. Hamilton's going be paid greatly and looking at his plate discipline and his age, don't think he's a good option.
July 25, 201214 yr Also, what the heck can the FO possibly have in mind for 3B. The FA class, besides Wright, is pretty pathetic and we have absolutely nothing in our farm... Maybe Chris Coghlan might remember how to hit someday? I think he played 3B in the minors in the past but that is a long shot. We have nothing in the minor leagues as far as infielders are concerned. Not much to choose from in FA either. We'll have to get a 3B in a trade but other than Josh Johnson, the rest of our trade bait isn't going to net us much of a return. So, we either get Olt or someone of that caliber back in a trade for Johnson or we are screwed. Not a good situation for 3B right now. As a matter of fact that was one of our bigger problems in the past until we shifted Hanley over there this season. We've come full circle in the hot corner. Coghlan is actually doing better in the minors. Nothing outstanding but hes the highest stat wise that hes been in a few years.
July 25, 201214 yr The Hanley trade is fine. Going to get Josh Hamilton would be a Loria move but I would oppose it. Hamilton's going be paid greatly and looking at his plate discipline and his age, don't think he's a good option. I agree. Signing Upton is ideal. Take the rest of that money and use it to buy more solid pieces, instead of a flashy one.
July 25, 201214 yr He's also a recovering drug and alcohol addict. I'm not sure Miami would be the place for him.
July 25, 201214 yr That's what I'm saying, I have no idea why we settled on Eovaldi. Guy's decent but even witrh the contract, Hanley could have gotten more, especially with Choate paired with him. Hanley, with his current production (which has been going on for 2+ years), has an awful contract. I'm not sure why Choate was included in the deal either, but he's just a LOOGY, anyway. Those don't usually go for much. Probably worth more than a reliever in high A, though.
July 25, 201214 yr Yeah, I heard the Rangers assigned him an accountability partner for all away games to monitor him. I guess they can do something similar here but getting him just isn't worth it.
July 25, 201214 yr He's also a recovering drug and alcohol addict. I'm not sure Miami would be the place for him. You mean you don't play him in LF? He can't have his own drink at the Clevelander like LoMo?
July 25, 201214 yr He's also a recovering drug and alcohol addict. I'm not sure Miami would be the place for him. You mean you don't play him in LF? He can't have his own drink at the Clevelander like LoMo? And cleverly have it named 'The Relapse'
July 25, 201214 yr Here is some info about Eovaldi from Fangraphs if anyone is interested. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/nathan-eovaldi-key-piece-in-hanley-ramirez-trade/ I agree with the sentiments above as well, I'd rather have a collection of solid players than one superstar like Hamilton, the Florida Panthers did a good job following that blueprint last off season and made the playoffs for the first time in 10 years.
July 25, 201214 yr He's also a recovering drug and alcohol addict. I'm not sure Miami would be the place for him. If he wanted to relapse, he would. Doesnt matter what team he plays for. I work with that population and if they want drugs/alcohol - they will find a way. Would not make a difference if he played for us.
July 25, 201214 yr He's also a recovering drug and alcohol addict. I'm not sure Miami would be the place for him. If he wanted to relapse, he would. Doesnt matter what team he plays for. I work with that population and if they want drugs/alcohol - they will find a way. Would not make a difference if he played for us. To that - I'm sure most MLB cities have a night life. Miami is not special in that sense.
July 25, 201214 yr That's what I'm saying, I have no idea why we settled on Eovaldi. Guy's decent but even witrh the contract, Hanley could have gotten more, especially with Choate paired with him. Hanley, with his current production (which has been going on for 2+ years), has an awful contract. I'm not sure why Choate was included in the deal either, but he's just a LOOGY, anyway. Those don't usually go for much. Probably worth more than a reliever in high A, though. We got Gaby Hernandez for Rhodes in '08. He was probably a low B prospect at the time.
July 25, 201214 yr Hanley's agent Andy Mota was on MLB Network Radio today around 2pm EDT. Anyone hear what he had to say?
July 25, 201214 yr Can't say I'm too surprised. I wonder who the anonymous Marlin is? http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/25/2912544/miami-marlins-teammates-have-mixed.html
July 25, 201214 yr Didn't realize thread title cut off. I guess there's no way to edit that. Oh well.
July 25, 201214 yr Wes Helms. Most likely LoMo though. Yeah I feel like the only one that makes sense is LoMo. Could have been Dobbs though. Dobbs strikes me as the kind of guy that doesn't put up with that type of sh*t.
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