August 31, 201213 yr Keep. After Sanchez was moved, we lack a 'core rotation'. Need some stability from year to year in a pitching rotation.
August 31, 201213 yr I voted to keep him but at the right price. Based on the rhetoric during the trading deadline, it seems like not many teams value JJ like the Marlins do. I think he would yield more value as a starter with the Marlins than as a trading chip.
August 31, 201213 yr Author I think it is going to be extremely difficult to compete in 2013. Because of this, I think trading him and getting pieces for the immediate future is best for the team. I think his value will increase in the offseason, especially if he has a nice September. The free agent class of SP's this offseason is pretty weak.
August 31, 201213 yr Hold on to him only if we look like we have a shot at competing by the deadline.
August 31, 201213 yr I think it is going to be extremely difficult to compete in 2013. Because of this, I think trading him and getting pieces for the immediate future is best for the team. I think his value will increase in the offseason, especially if he has a nice September. The free agent class of SP's this offseason is pretty weak. I think it's possible for 2013. This team has some serious strengths and serious holes. Lots of holes, but if you can fill them with average players you could have a team that could be WC contenders. As long as the right moves are made all around, of course.
August 31, 201213 yr I voted for trade him in the off season. The ideal scenario would be to revisit trade talks with Texas again about Olt. If we're not satisfied with the offers during the off season, hold him until the trade deadline and see where we are at. If we're in a winning position, keep him. If not, trade him.
August 31, 201213 yr You need him unless you're getting a SP back in a trade that can start right away. And ideally you're also getting a 3rd baseman in that deal. So basically I'm only trading JJ if I'm getting a SP and 3B at the minimum.
August 31, 201213 yr I like the option of seeing where he is when his contract is up, he's in for now with a decent contract. If he pitches really well the first half next year you can try to negotiate otherwise when the contract is over let him walk
August 31, 201213 yr I say shop him like they did this trade deadline. Ask for high prospects or good players. If no one bites, then you keep him. I doubt JJ will ever live up to the potential he showed before the surgery. IMHO.
August 31, 201213 yr Keep JJ and give him an extension...he's coming back and we've seen flashes of it in the majority of his last starts...
August 31, 201213 yr If he has an awesome September, maybe we can get a decent package for him. If not, hope he has a good first half and make a trade at the deadline.
September 1, 201213 yr Why would we move a guy who's been an ace most of his years and is improving every other start. The entire team doesn't suck there were just pieces.
September 1, 201213 yr With our rotation we can't trade him now. But he needs to get his sh*t back or else he's gone. Fastball just isn't there. He throws 92-93 but for him it's a slow 93 that doesn't have life. Comes out weak. In June he was back up to 94-96 but now he barely hits 93. Gets knocked around in ways he never would before.
September 5, 201213 yr explore trade offers but seeing as they probably wont get anything spectacualr in return, id offer him an extension. not a HUGE one, but one that is indicative of his history...good and bad.
September 5, 201213 yr With our rotation we can't trade him now. But he needs to get his sh*t back or else he's gone. Fastball just isn't there. He throws 92-93 but for him it's a slow 93 that doesn't have life. Comes out weak. In June he was back up to 94-96 but now he barely hits 93. Gets knocked around in ways he never would before. He was throwing 95-96 last time out...
September 5, 201213 yr With our rotation we can't trade him now. But he needs to get his sh*t back or else he's gone. Fastball just isn't there. He throws 92-93 but for him it's a slow 93 that doesn't have life. Comes out weak. In June he was back up to 94-96 but now he barely hits 93. Gets knocked around in ways he never would before. He was throwing 95-96 last time out... I'm not sure how you can say that when he averaged 93.45 and maxed out at 94.9.
September 5, 201213 yr With our rotation we can't trade him now. But he needs to get his sh*t back or else he's gone. Fastball just isn't there. He throws 92-93 but for him it's a slow 93 that doesn't have life. Comes out weak. In June he was back up to 94-96 but now he barely hits 93. Gets knocked around in ways he never would before. He was throwing 95-96 last time out... I'm not sure how you can say that when he averaged 93.45 and maxed out at 94.9. It takes some skill to be wrong that many posts in a row :lol
September 5, 201213 yr Sell him, to the Yankees. For $230k. We'll start calling him Babe, and hope he starts guzzling Hot Dogs. (Really: Keep him, move him at the deadline if an extension doesn't seem imminent.) He may not be JJ, but with his decline his salary should be reasonable for his production.
September 6, 201213 yr I think it is going to be extremely difficult to compete in 2013. Because of this, I think trading him and getting pieces for the immediate future is best for the team. I think his value will increase in the offseason, especially if he has a nice September. The free agent class of SP's this offseason is pretty weak. If Loria is still our owner, then yes. If he sells to a dedicated person who is willing to compete, we can do what the Dodgers have done and go from crap to contenders. Keep JJ, sign Shields/Greinke along with some bats and make some trades. Our prospects suck and the farm is depleted. Imagine the Markins had been buyers this year and landed Adrian Gonzalez, Greinke, Victorino and maybe even Hunter Pence. Might we not be in contention for the wild card right now?
September 6, 201213 yr I think it is going to be extremely difficult to compete in 2013. Because of this, I think trading him and getting pieces for the immediate future is best for the team. I think his value will increase in the offseason, especially if he has a nice September. The free agent class of SP's this offseason is pretty weak. If Loria is still our owner, then yes. If he sells to a dedicated person who is willing to compete, we can do what the Dodgers have done and go from crap to contenders. Keep JJ, sign Shields/Greinke along with some bats and make some trades. Our prospects suck and the farm is depleted. Imagine the Markins had been buyers this year and landed Adrian Gonzalez, Greinke, Victorino and maybe even Hunter Pence. Might we not be in contention for the wild card right now? You are not smart. Yelich, Fernandez, Turner, Brantly, Conley, Heaney, Ozuna... they all suck!!!!!! But apparently they are good enough to land Adrian Gonzalez, Greinke, Victorino and Pence!
September 6, 201213 yr Yes, the smart thing to do after shedding a little payroll is to add that back + another 30% or so with those guys you mentioned. Super smart. :|
September 6, 201213 yr You keep him, bring up an extension and get an idea of what they (he and agent) are looking for. If it's not something we like, you trade him, if it seems reasonable, you hold on to him unless you get a great offer and we're not competing by the 2013 deadline.
September 6, 201213 yr With our rotation we can't trade him now. But he needs to get his sh*t back or else he's gone. Fastball just isn't there. He throws 92-93 but for him it's a slow 93 that doesn't have life. Comes out weak. In June he was back up to 94-96 but now he barely hits 93. Gets knocked around in ways he never would before. He was throwing 95-96 last time out... I'm not sure how you can say that when he averaged 93.45 and maxed out at 94.9. Was going for the readings on TV...he maxed out at 96 last time out...
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