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2022-2023 Offseason Thread

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2 hours ago, marlinsmaniac said:

Brings back memories of @TimeWrecker. I used to use his desktop wallpapers religiously. I especially remember the Jeremy Hermida one and one of Alex Gonzalez’s home run in game four of the 2003 World Series. 

Blast from the past, heck. I remember actually printing those out to use like posters in my room. Haha.

18 minutes ago, marlinsmaniac said:

100%, but this team is better off acquiring 5 “good” players than one “really good” player so that the lineup isn’t a black hole with one bright spot. Remember they used to have Marte out there who is of a very similar ilk and it didn’t get the team anywhere.

Jazz is still on the team and if healthy is definitely a plus bat. The lineup itself does have useful parts but the problem is that when Kim built this roster she tried to make all the parts largely the same and there's no real balance to it.

Cooper can also hit a bit too provided he gets some protection in the lineup and Soler would even be fine if some others could actually work a damn walk once in awhile.

Reynolds and Conforto would go a long long way to at least making the team watchable - especially if they somehow didn't trade Pablo for Reynolds.

Reynolds isn't being acquired as the Pirates rightfully want to keep him but getting those two and a healthy Jazz back wouldve really help lengthen the lineup. 

Just now, hovertical said:

Jazz is still on the team and if healthy is definitely a plus bat. The lineup itself does have useful parts but the problem is that when Kim built this roster she tried to make all the parts largely the same and there's no real balance to it.

Cooper can also hit a bit too provided he gets some protection in the lineup and Soler would even be fine if some others could actually work a damn walk once in awhile.

Reynolds and Conforto would go a long long way to at least making the team watchable - especially if they somehow didn't trade Pablo for Reynolds.

Reynolds isn't being acquired as the Pirates rightfully want to keep him but getting those two and a healthy Jazz back wouldve really help lengthen the lineup. 

Let's also hope that Skinny Avisail can hit again.

Just now, Michael said:

Let's also hope that Skinny Avisail can hit again.

Yeah I 100% believe he won't be as bad again. I also believe that Jeter sold him a lie to come here and he was pissed off all season long and bolstering the lineup would likely help more fully realize that promise and possibly change his attitude.  I'm sure we've all worked for someplace or someone who hyped up the job and then failed to deliver and we just lost all motivation at work. Some dudes let things get to them more than others and maybe Avi is one of those guys. Shrug 

Avisail was also sold on coming here first, to be followed by others like Marte and/or Castellanos and whoever else they might have been in on.

Avi was never supposed to be the one big addition alone. And we know Soler was a late pivot when they couldn't get others and felt they had to get someone along with proving they could still spend some money. 

Avi + Soler was not the original plan for 2022. 

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8 minutes ago, SilverBullet said:

Avisail was also sold on coming here first, to be followed by others like Marte and/or Castellanos and whoever else they might have been in on.

Avi was never supposed to be the one big addition alone. And we know Soler was a late pivot when they couldn't get others and felt they had to get someone along with proving they could still spend some money. 

Avi + Soler was not the original plan for 2022. 

Seems like they're not very good at executing their plans lol.

10 minutes ago, SilverBullet said:

Avisail was also sold on coming here first, to be followed by others like Marte and/or Castellanos and whoever else they might have been in on.

Didn't Marte sign before Avi?

10 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

Didn't Marte sign before Avi?

I thought he did too. I dunno if it was Jeter who preferred Avi over Marte but man when we saw Avi get the money that Marte had literally asked for prior to being courted by the Mutts....I remember being effing livid. Marte had also proven he could actually HIT here too AND was vocal about wanting to stay with Miami - both of which are really freaking rare. That was a total no-brainer move to re-sign him immediately.

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41 minutes ago, SilverBullet said:

Avisail was also sold on coming here first, to be followed by others like Marte and/or Castellanos and whoever else they might have been in on.

Avi was never supposed to be the one big addition alone. And we know Soler was a late pivot when they couldn't get others and felt they had to get someone along with proving they could still spend some money. 

Avi + Soler was not the original plan for 2022. 

@SilverBullet, you Ng ?

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48 minutes ago, hovertical said:

I thought he did too. I dunno if it was Jeter who preferred Avi over Marte but man when we saw Avi get the money that Marte had literally asked for prior to being courted by the Mutts....I remember being effing livid. Marte had also proven he could actually HIT here too AND was vocal about wanting to stay with Miami - both of which are really freaking rare. That was a total no-brainer move to re-sign him immediately.

Couple that with we would have had our cake and eaten it too by having gotten Luzardo from trading him, AND re-signed him.

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18 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

Kinda like the no-brainer move of signing Realmuto a year earlier.

While there's no guarantee he'd have signed here, the fact they didn't even bother trying when they had a gaping hole at C made no sense.

Cohen would gives Realmuto and Marte what they want “in a heartbeat ”, but sadly it's Sherman's money. 

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42 minutes ago, TaiwanAstros said:

@SilverBullet, you Ng ?

Well, that would explain why the Marlins haven’t signed any new players this offseason. Too busy busy writing jokes and puns on Marlinsbaseball.com.

 

😂

23 minutes ago, rmc523 said:

While there's no guarantee he'd have signed here, the fact they didn't even bother trying when they had a gaping hole at C made no sense.

Maybe Jeter and Bruce really appreciated huge gaping holes.

Here’s a name I haven’t seen thrown around.

 

Would you guys be interested in the Marlins signing Rougned Odor to play 2B and move Jazz over to SS?

1 hour ago, hovertical said:

Soler would even be fine if some others could actually work a damn walk once in awhile.

 

2 hours ago, rmc523 said:

Who are these 5 good players?

So my comment was that in general the state of the team is one in which they’re better off spreading the wealth and fielding a team with 5 average but dependable players in their lineup than 1 REALLY good player because they’re not “one bat” away. With that said, I think someone like Soler has a place in the lineup since he’s a high slugging outfielder who might strike out quite a bit, but can break games open with a 3 run HR assuming he has guys around him that can get on base. So I would say’s he’s one of the 5 I’d have been fine building this years lineup around. With Soler manning one of the corner spots, I’d have signed J.D. Martinez to DH because he is an on base machine who will still hit in the .300 range which the team desperately needs. Then I would have signed Benintendi to play center since he is also a high contact “slap” hitter who would benefit greatly from the big gaps at Marlins park, then I’d work out a trade for Josh Donaldson and Oswaldo Cabrera of the Yankees. That gives you your shortstop to throw in there with Jazz up the middle in Cabrera. Yankees want Donaldson’s money off the books for Luxury Tax purposes so your acratching their back a bit there plus he would be a free agent in 2024 at which point you sign a long term 3B or move Cabrera to 3B and find a shortstop on the FA market. Those are 5 that I’d be good with. Not the only options, but good options nonetheless 

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25 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

 

I guess Ng didn't return those monitors to rent-a-center afterall. She's clearly still monitoring the situation.

53 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

 

Can he play centerfield?  I can envision Kim trying to convince FA's to sign here discussing her and the organization's vision for success and that we have a plan that we are planning on planning.

2 hours ago, SonOfJack said:

Didn't Marte sign before Avi?

You're probably right, but still Avi wasn't supposed to be the only signing. The Herald said the original plan was Marte + Avi, and we know the Castellanos thing. 

17 minutes ago, SilverBullet said:

You're probably right, but still Avi wasn't supposed to be the only signing. The Herald said the original plan was Marte + Avi, and we know the Castellanos thing. 

So are we supposed to give them half credit for having a plan? Either they have no plans ever or they always fail miserably at plans, I don't see a positive either way.

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