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The Official Giancarlo Stanton Man Crush Thread

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I'd rather the walk rate go up than the strikeout rate go down. The BB% rate is down to 9.8% from 11.7% but it's still early and we need to wait and see what happens from June-September.

 

The OBP has stayed pretty close, since he's been hitting for a higher average. If the average regresses but his walks stay where they are right now, then that would be trouble.

 

Also, it's not like he's getting absurdly lucky on the face of his stats; his LD% is extremely high.

 

But, as you said, and especially with a guy this talented, we should wait and see.

I'd rather the walk rate go up than the strikeout rate go down. The BB% rate is down to 9.8% from 11.7% but it's still early and we need to wait and see what happens from June-September.

 

 

I have to think he's going to start getting more IBB as the season goes on also...

Look to the numbers that Willie Mays put up in 1954 and 1955 for some idea of how explosive a generational superstar can be in their 3rd and 4th year.

I'd rather the walk rate go up than the strikeout rate go down. The BB% rate is down to 9.8% from 11.7% but it's still early and we need to wait and see what happens from June-September.

 

The OBP has stayed pretty close, since he's been hitting for a higher average. If the average regresses but his walks stay where they are right now, then that would be trouble.

 

Also, it's not like he's getting absurdly lucky on the face of his stats; his LD% is extremely high.

 

But, as you said, and especially with a guy this talented, we should wait and see.

It's much more desirable to have the OBP more walk driven than base hit driven. That will make him more consistent and less susceptible to slumps (not sure how sustainable his LD% and BABIP will be over the long run). That plate discipline would be good to see.

I think he's going to be the type of guy who consistently posts high BABIPs, simply because of how hard he hits the ball.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2012&month=0&season1=2010&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&players=0&sort=12,d

 

The leaderboard for BABIP over the last three seasons combined features a lot of big power hitters with decent speed, which is exactly what Stanton is. I think he can sustain something like .330 BABIP.

 

One thing that works in his favor is that he does not rely on outrageous FB rates like some power hitters for his home runs. He has a pretty balanced mix of GBs, LDs, and FBs as his batted-ball profile, which seems to be the best way for power hitters to sustain high BABIP. He seems to be the type of hitter who simply squares the ball up when he hits it.

I'd rather the walk rate go up than the strikeout rate go down. The BB% rate is down to 9.8% from 11.7% but it's still early and we need to wait and see what happens from June-September.

 

 

For him right now, I think the K rate is a lot more important than the BB rate.

I wish Stanton could just hit in every AB for the whole lineup...

 

His power is seriously unreal. Never seen anything like it.

I wish Stanton could just hit in every AB for the whole lineup...

 

His power is seriously unreal. Never seen anything like it.

 

But then pitchers would figure out how to pitch him, and it'll be perfect games every day.

Actually, no. It wouldn't. This boy ADJUSTS!

I just picture this thread still on page one of this forum ten years from now.

I know he's currently hitting over .300 but do you guys see him keeping it up over say .285-.290 for the season or do you expect a drop?

I know he's currently hitting over .300 but do you guys see him keeping it up over say .285-.290 for the season or do you expect a drop?

 

 

If he keeps his K% 22-24%ish, then yes. He can be a consistent .280+ hitter. He has an extremely high LD rate this season at 26% and his GB rate has gone down about 11% from last season. His BABIP has virtually stayed the same, despite the increase in AVG from last season. Those are good signs. He is smoking every ball nowadays towards left/left-center, and if he can continue this May tear onward to 2 of the next 4 months of baseball left, dare I say we might be talking MVP candidate come October?

As great of a season Stanton is having, he is still nowhere near his potential, at least as a polished hitter. Josh Hamilton has comparable contact and plate discipline in general. But, what differs greatly between Stanton and Hamilton, is that Hamilton has a marginally better contact rate outside the zone than Stanton. So, Stanton has to be alot more selective with his pitches than Hamilton.

 

His contact rate in general is still mediocre and hasn't changed much from his rookie season. So expect his rate stats to drop over the course of the season. We're looking at a line of probably:

 

.275 AVG | .360 OBP | .560 SLG | .920 OPS

 

...by the end of the season. His ISO will increase due to his low GB rate this season and also expect a slight increase in K%.

Too many stats, not enough man crush.

Apparently since the start of the expansion era in 1961, the only other player under age 23 who hit more homers and RBIs in a single month was Bob Horner in 1980.

 

 

And how many did he hit?? I haven't seen that number only that Bob did.

Apparently since the start of the expansion era in 1961, the only other player under age 23 who hit more homers and RBIs in a single month was Bob Horner in 1980.

 

Also, most HRs before age 23 since then:

 

1. Alex Rodriguez 106

2. Tony Conigliaro 104

3. Bob Horner 91

4. Ken Griffey Jr 87

Johnny Bench 87

5. Andruw Jones 80

6. Boog Powell 79

7. Miguel Cabrera 78

8. Juan Gonzalez 75

9. Albert Pujols 71

10. Giancarlo Stanton 69

Jose Canseco 69

Ruben Sierra 69

12. Cesar Cedeno 64

13. Justin Upton 60

14. Cal Ripken Jr 55

Adrian Beltre 55

15. Eddie Murray 54

 

Pretty damn good company. And he still has 6 months to go. If he can catch Griffey and Bench, that would be spectacular.

Apparently since the start of the expansion era in 1961, the only other player under age 23 who hit more homers and RBIs in a single month was Bob Horner in 1980.

 

Also, most HRs before age 23 since then:

 

1. Alex Rodriguez 106

2. Tony Conigliaro 104

3. Bob Horner 91

4. Ken Griffey Jr 87

Johnny Bench 87

5. Andruw Jones 80

6. Boog Powell 79

7. Miguel Cabrera 78

8. Juan Gonzalez 75

9. Albert Pujols 71

10. Giancarlo Stanton 69

Jose Canseco 69

Ruben Sierra 69

12. Cesar Cedeno 64

13. Justin Upton 60

14. Cal Ripken Jr 55

Adrian Beltre 55

15. Eddie Murray 54

 

Pretty damn good company. And he still has 6 months to go. If he can catch Griffey and Bench, that would be spectacular.

4 months to go, really. We're not playing til November 8th.

 

Anyways, to pass Bench and Griffey, Jr., he has to hit just 1 less than he did last year, which is definitely doable. I think he'll hit more than his total last season, personally, and possibly pass Horner.

Apparently since the start of the expansion era in 1961, the only other player under age 23 who hit more homers and RBIs in a single month was Bob Horner in 1980.

 

Also, most HRs before age 23 since then:

 

1. Alex Rodriguez 106

2. Tony Conigliaro 104

3. Bob Horner 91

4. Ken Griffey Jr 87

Johnny Bench 87

5. Andruw Jones 80

6. Boog Powell 79

7. Miguel Cabrera 78

8. Juan Gonzalez 75

9. Albert Pujols 71

10. Giancarlo Stanton 69

Jose Canseco 69

Ruben Sierra 69

12. Cesar Cedeno 64

13. Justin Upton 60

14. Cal Ripken Jr 55

Adrian Beltre 55

15. Eddie Murray 54

 

Pretty damn good company. And he still has 6 months to go. If he can catch Griffey and Bench, that would be spectacular.

surely he will. I think he'll be sitting at 3 on that list.

Apparently since the start of the expansion era in 1961, the only other player under age 23 who hit more homers and RBIs in a single month was Bob Horner in 1980.

 

Also, most HRs before age 23 since then:

 

1. Alex Rodriguez 106

2. Tony Conigliaro 104

3. Bob Horner 91

4. Ken Griffey Jr 87

Johnny Bench 87

5. Andruw Jones 80

6. Boog Powell 79

7. Miguel Cabrera 78

8. Juan Gonzalez 75

9. Albert Pujols 71

10. Giancarlo Stanton 69

Jose Canseco 69

Ruben Sierra 69

12. Cesar Cedeno 64

13. Justin Upton 60

14. Cal Ripken Jr 55

Adrian Beltre 55

15. Eddie Murray 54

 

Pretty damn good company. And he still has 6 months to go. If he can catch Griffey and Bench, that would be spectacular.

surely he will. I think he'll be sitting at 3 on that list.

 

Stantons a beast among men, he'll get to 1st on that list. Easily.

Apparently since the start of the expansion era in 1961, the only other player under age 23 who hit more homers and RBIs in a single month was Bob Horner in 1980.

 

Also, most HRs before age 23 since then:

 

1. Alex Rodriguez 106

2. Tony Conigliaro 104

3. Bob Horner 91

4. Ken Griffey Jr 87

Johnny Bench 87

5. Andruw Jones 80

6. Boog Powell 79

7. Miguel Cabrera 78

8. Juan Gonzalez 75

9. Albert Pujols 71

10. Giancarlo Stanton 69

Jose Canseco 69

Ruben Sierra 69

12. Cesar Cedeno 64

13. Justin Upton 60

14. Cal Ripken Jr 55

Adrian Beltre 55

15. Eddie Murray 54

 

Pretty damn good company. And he still has 6 months to go. If he can catch Griffey and Bench, that would be spectacular.

surely he will. I think he'll be sitting at 3 on that list.

 

Stantons a beast among men, he'll get to 1st on that list. Easily.

 

So you're predicting he easily gets to 50 home runs this season?

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