legacyofCangelosi Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I have no clue how to start a poll on here anymore. I wonder how people on MB.com feel about the statue. The herald poll shockingly was 65 percent no and only 22 yes. Should it be built or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlinsForever Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I voted no, if your going to build a statue of him, better build two others for the other victims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 I voted yes by the way. The unfortunate decisions that led to his death should not tarnish the fact that he was an amazing ball player and a hero to many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 I voted no, if your going to build a statue of him, better build two others for the other victims Not to be argumentative but the concept of the other two guys being "victims" is a misnomer. All three were drinking and made a bad decision. I don't get in a car with someone who's driving that I know has been drinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlinsForever Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I voted yes by the way. The unfortunate decisions that led to his death should not tarnish the fact that he was an amazing ball player and a hero to many. Being responsible for killing two other people supersedes being a great pitcher my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Being responsible for killing two other people supersedes being a great pitcher my friend Perhaps as a criminal defense lawyer I'm biased , but rescuing someone from drowning during the journey from Cuba, the work he did for children and for the community in Miami as well as his achievements on the field make it much more complicated than just that. To me all three were equally responsible for what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 As I've said before, keep the ballplayer and the person separate. Make a statue of the ballplayer, the one the people loved, admired, respected, the one that brought joy to possibly millions of people. Probably the most exciting pitcher of my lifetime [admittedly I may be a little biased]. And again, I can absolutely understand both sides. However, I don't know about making a statue of the other two. But, I think an extra memorial note of them could be doable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Perhaps as a criminal defense lawyer I'm biased , but rescuing someone from drowning during the journey from Cuba, the work he did for children and for the community in Miami as well as his achievements on the field make it much more complicated than just that. To me all three were equally responsible for what happened. and odds are you would sadly lose this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 and for the record, the hero worship I dont get. Its like we just ignore the way his life stupidly ended and gloss over all the circumstances around it cause he could pitch baseballs well for a few years. I'd rather they put up a statue of Dontrelle Willis, he contributed more to this franchise in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 As I've said before, keep the ballplayer and the person separate. Make a statue of the ballplayer, the one the people loved, admired, respected, the one that brought joy to possibly millions of people. Probably the most exciting pitcher of my lifetime [admittedly I may be a little biased]. And again, I can absolutely understand both sides. However, I don't know about making a statue of the other two. But, I think an extra memorial note of them could be doable. Putting up a statue sends the wrong damn message completely. That it doesnt matter how terrible you are off the field, as long as you can perform great between the lines, everyone will literally ignore everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Putting up a statue sends the wrong damn message completely. That it doesnt matter how terrible you are off the field, as long as you can perform great between the lines, everyone will literally ignore everything else. It's not just about how he performed, it's what he brought to the city, to the game, and to our hearts. I can only speak for myself here, but I'm not ignoring his mistakes. I was a bit saddened to find out he had coke in his system [i figured alcohol would be], but I'm not going to judge him for those mistakes. I agree with Legacy, all three involved could be considered at fault, because regardless of who took the wheel, it would have most likely ended up the same way. Again ... I can see both sides. I have my opinion, you have yours, everyone has theirs. Nothing will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I voted no. He gave us a great couple of years. Let him RIP, and let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I voted no. He gave us a great couple of years. Let him RIP, and let it go. same here I believe is too much controversy to it, Donate the money of the statue to his baby daughter college funds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins Phenom Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 So if Jose would of had alcohol in his system only then the statue is okay. But, since he had coke it's not? I truly do not understand that. Both are equally bad.. Build a statue for the other 2? All 3 are equally responsible imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 So if Jose would of had alcohol in his system only then the statue is okay. But, since he had coke it's not? I truly do not understand that. Both are equally bad.. Build a statue for the other 2? All 3 are equally responsible imo. It's not the alcohol or the coke I think. It's being the driver of an accident that killed two other people that is the hard part. Everyone makes mistakes. If he died alone with those substances in his system people would have been sad but that's it. Being responsible for 2 other peoples deaths is what changes this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 100% yes. Great player and icon for the community because of his backstory, extremely fan friendly, played the right way His one mistake has been paid for already ultimately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTrain Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I voted no, if your going to build a statue of him, better build two others for the other victims lol No. You're doing it wrong. I voted yes. Unequivocally yes. One night of horrible judgement does not negate the joy to the City Of Miami for his time as a Marlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYmarlins Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I voted No. Even if we put the whole drug things to the side. He pitched 1 full complete season in 2013. 2014 he was hurt. 2015 he pitched half a season and 2016 he pitched almost the full season. No question he had amazing talent and was very exciting to watch but he didn't play long. RIP Jose you are missed but I don't think the statue is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted April 23, 2017 Author Share Posted April 23, 2017 and odds are you would sadly lose this case. In Miami with Jose Fernandez as the defendant. I just need one juror. Odds are it would be resolved without trial with a significantly lower charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP16 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I will never forget Jose. I will never forget how exciting he was. I will never forget the positive spirit he lived with. I love and respect Jose the player and person forever. I honor him and still grieve for his death. He should be honored and respected. Somehow. Forever. But I voted "no". I do not believe any human should be worshipped in sculpted representation. And I do not believe in constructing statues of humans unless strictly for artistic expression. This is not ancient Egypt. He is not a Pharaoh. Jose should be honored, respected, and loved. He will forever remain in my heart. I think other ideas to honor him should be considered. It shouldn't just be "yes to statue or no". I believe an artistic mural as a tribute would be appropriate, for example. Somewhere in or outside the stadium. Showcasing his time with the Marlins and off the field contributions. And his determination to become an American. Not just a baseball player in America. A mural would also be able to express his positive spirit and vibrant livelihood more than a statue. His life and death should be honored openly and abundantly, but I do not believe a statue of him honors his contributions appropriately. Statues idealize humans, his life and death need to be honored, and respected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 clear yes.. people make shitty decisions that are neither moral or amoral.... jose is my boy....followed him since drated...always hated his change up until the game before he died...still super sad and marlins arent same 4 me yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanleyDavidson Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 For those advocates saying he committed a crime, they're wrong because he's dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I vote no. He didn't play for the Marlins long enough. He was probably going to be traded in a year or so anyway. He meant a lot to the community, sure, but I don't think he was there long enough to be worthy of being immortalized by a statue. If he would have spent the remainder of his MLB career (say another 15 years) with another team, I doubt he would have gotten a statue in Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I voted no. He gave us a great couple of years. Let him RIP, and let it go. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I voted No. Even if we put the whole drug things to the side. He pitched 1 full complete season in 2013. 2014 he was hurt. 2015 he pitched half a season and 2016 he pitched almost the full season. No question he had amazing talent and was very exciting to watch but he didn't play long. RIP Jose you are missed but I don't think the statue is needed. This and he wasn't making much of an effort to stay in Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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