squall Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Pointless discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 [No message] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J'Daniel Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 i can't believe some people are saying JT needs to go - wait...oh that's right i'm on this board....yeah, unless we had Posey back there nobody will be happy. Realmuto has a shot at being the best overall catcher the Marlins have ever had outside Ivan. Catchers that produce and that can block and actually throw out runners are NOT easy to find...but oh hey, his pitch framing must be why the fish pitching staff sucks. get rid of him! get a life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Joel Sherman with an article in the NY Post saying the Marlins might be missing out on a huge return for Straily at the deadline, whose numbers actually compare to Jose Quintana. He says he gets what the team is trying to do by saving the young controllable guys for the next owners but he thinks they really should see if someone will overpay for Straily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Joel Sherman with an article in the NY Post saying the Marlins might be missing out on a huge return for Straily at the deadline, whose numbers actually compare to Jose Quintana. He says he gets what the team is trying to do by saving the young controllable guys for the next owners but he thinks they really should see if someone will overpay for Straily. Absolutely. Another missed opportunity by this front office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I have no problem if they want to keep that core of hitters, but Dan Straily should not be an untouchable player. That is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I have no problem if they want to keep that core of hitters, but Dan Straily should not be an untouchable player. That is ridiculous. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97marlin Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Realmuto is terrible at framing pitches and he's below average at using his body (and equipment) to block the ball. Beyond that, he is really good and I don't see the need to trade him. This pretty much sums up my dislike for him. I think he is worth a kings ransom. If you want to optimize his value you could move his position, but then he'd be worth less as a trade candidate. I'm not trying to sit here and say he is the worst catcher in the league. BUT in some aspects (important ones you could argue) he is near the bottom. We currently have no farm. It would be a good time to move him. I want to win games sooner rather than later. A big return on a player that has real faults, might be a good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydawg Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 This pretty much sums up my dislike for him. I think he is worth a kings ransom. If you want to optimize his value you could move his position, but then he'd be worth less as a trade candidate. I'm not trying to sit here and say he is the worst catcher in the league. BUT in some aspects (important ones you could argue) he is near the bottom. We currently have no farm. It would be a good time to move him. I want to win games sooner rather than later. A big return on a player that has real faults, might be a good move. I disagree with how important framing is. Good pitchers don't need their pitches framed and good umpires shouldn't be fooled by a catcher. The focus should be on acquiring better pitchers. I also haven't seen him struggling with blocking pitches. He is a very good defensive catcher. His catch and throw skills are excellent as is his footwork playing bunts in front of home plate. Also, we have no catching dept. Who replaces him? Tellis is not very good defensively, and Ellis can't hit. J T is also very affordable and very controllable. There is really no benefit to trading him for prospects who may or may not pan out. J T is the type of player we should be targeting and not trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J'Daniel Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I'm sure the Marlins are not ignoring all offers for Straily either. Even if they say they're not trading "core" pieces they'll still listen to offers and if they're blown away, then they'd pull the trigger - as would any GM. Also I still can't fathom how anyone on here can still be arguing that our starting catcher is a "problem area" that should be addressed. sigh I'm guessing you still want a platoon partner for Bour too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I have my doubts about framing statistics. A lot of the best framers from a couple of years ago are now considered some of the worst. Jonathan Lucroy, for example, used to be the best and now he's terrible. Salvador Perez is another guy who rather consistently rates pretty badly, and I think everybody would take him. I think Realmuto is solid and we'd have to be overwhelmed to trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTrain Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Also I still can't fathom how anyone on here can still be arguing that our starting catcher is a "problem area" that should be addressed. I've noticed you're terrible sometimes at comprehending posts. I don't think anyone said catcher is a problem area that needs to be addressed. His positives and negatives were explored and also someone pointed out his trade value is very high right now and we have almost no farm system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 let's get 5 prospects for Ramos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumboshrimp30 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 6. [ATTACH]1532._xfImport[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 let's get 5 prospects for Ramos Only need one BEST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada-marlin24 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Bour to DL. He just can't seem to put a full season together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyggyMarlin Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Bour to DL. He just can't seem to put a full season together. too many fucking donuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 quick, sell high (sort of) on Straily! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins Phenom Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/546700/marlins-now-open-to-trading-sp-dan-straily?ls=roto:MLB:topheadlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/546700/marlins-now-open-to-trading-sp-dan-straily?ls=roto:MLB:topheadlines About damn time they wised up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/546700/marlins-now-open-to-trading-sp-dan-straily?ls=roto:MLB:topheadlines Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTRiddlesMom Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Great news all around. I like Straily but I'm not even sure he can keep up the solid first half he's had. It might be all sorts of awesome to trade him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Bet we could land at least a couple decent pitching prospects. Maybe Luis Castillo and Austin Brice, do it Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/546700/marlins-now-open-to-trading-sp-dan-straily?ls=roto:MLB:topheadlines whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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