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Starling Marte Acquired, Villar, Smith & Mejia Traded, Diaz Opts In

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32 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

Villar was one of my least favorite Marlins ever, getting the son of my favorite Marlin ever for him is about as good as it gets.

I was excited about him, but his performance was a roller coaster.  I wish him the best, but not got attached to him.  

1 minute ago, cyoung said:

I was excited about him, but his performance was a roller coaster.  I wish him the best, but not got attached to him.  

Absolutely. This was basically the main reason he was acquired in the first place, to flip him.

1 hour ago, SilverBullet said:

Not possible if I'm not mistaken.

yeah what's the story on this? I thought if you opted out you couldn't opt back in other than people in a very "at risk" situation

2 minutes ago, marlinsmaniac said:

yeah what's the story on this? I thought if you opted out you couldn't opt back in other than people in a very "at risk" situation

Markakis opted back in.

Clarification, the rule must have been changed, like many things that have been changed this season because of all the craziness but when Markakis opted back in it was said that he did so before the deadline to opt back in. And when Diaz opted out it was said that he would not be able to return because he had opted out after the deadline. Obviously that deadline has been waived. 

7 minutes ago, SilverBullet said:

Clarification, the rule must have been changed, like many things that have been changed this season because of all the craziness but when Markakis opted back in it was said that he did so before the deadline to opt back in. And when Diaz opted out it was said that he would not be able to return because he had opted out after the deadline. Obviously that deadline has been waived. 

I mean, it makes sense to me.  If you were already on the team, why would it matter if you opted in or out regardless of the date?  Obviously the team will have to make a corresponding roster move to re-activate you, but otherwise, I don't see why it'd matter - just like getting someone off the IL.

Edited by rmc523

Would love to know more about how Villar didn't buy in to the vision here. What's not to buy into? Is he not here to win ballgames? This has to be something deeper like not listening to the coaches or something like that. Something that's a more blatant sign of not wanting to follow along here. Very weird.

1 minute ago, rmc523 said:

I mean, it makes sense to me.  If you were already on the team, why would it matter if you opted in or out regardless of the date?  Obviously the team will have to make a corresponding roster move to re-activate you, but otherwise, I don't see why it'd matter - just like getting someone off the IL.

No I think I understood it at the start of the season. A team could have had a guy opt out to purposely save him to be a late addition like a secret weapon thing. That wouldn't be fair.

So... doesn't today kinda signal that we're "done" with the rebuild?

Of course the team should continue to acquire prospects to layer throughout the system but we just made a buyers trade to push for a playoff spot in a season where we've proven we can finally win our share of games all while many of our top prospects are starting to arrive at the majors. 

My point is that going into 2021 the tide has turned and we're looking to win. We aren't tanking anymore. There's no reason to go backwards at this point. 

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Just now, SilverBullet said:

So... doesn't today kinda signal that we're "done" with the rebuild?

Of course the team should continue to acquire prospects to layer throughout the system but we just made a buyers trade to push for a playoff spot in a season where we've proven we can finally win our share of games all while many of our top prospects are starting to arrive at the majors. 

My point is that going into 2021 the tide has turned and we're looking to win. We aren't tanking anymore. There's no reason to go backwards at this point. 

Yes

1 minute ago, SilverBullet said:

No I think I understood it at the start of the season. A team could have had a guy opt out to purposely save him to be a late addition like a secret weapon thing. That wouldn't be fair.

I imagine Diaz had a medical excuse (and I believe it can even be a thing like a pregnant spouse/girlfriend because Trout was considering opting out for the same reasons). And when the whole team went down, Diaz opted out. Which sounds like he got (quite understandably) spooked by the nearness of all of it.

As far as I understand  it, you can only opt back in if you originally opted out with a medical reason (such as high-risk status or pregnant loved one). Since the Marlins don't even announce COVID guys in general, I'm guessing they never announced the reason for the opt out.

Not trying to be rude but some of you keep questioning the Markakis/Diaz deadline thing. I didn't make it up. Obviously it was a thing before but now it's gone.

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