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The Fire Don Mattingly Thread

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1 minute ago, jsprt14 said:

He is cheap because somehow Jeter conned all these investors into spending $1.2 BILLION on this team. Jeter made his money back and bounced, but Sherman is stuck with this albatross with low revenue.

Lets assume all that is true.

Bruce bought a business and needs to field a better product. So he's gotta fight low revenue by...... creating that better product! This isn't a chicken or the egg scenario ya know? This is a build your brand and you might lose money for 2 years because no one trusts you, but that slowly erodes if you invest in your business? Plus winning would help.

It goes back to what I think we all agree - the Jayson Werth signing (or go bigger with a Correa). It's time to go sign someone next offseason (as they can't now) and show people you mean business, as well as Ng then must trade something for a 2nd massive player. It's time to put up.

They whiffed this offseason completing the puzzle, so do they actually do it next and step all the way to contending? Past behavior dictates no, but we'll see.

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59 minutes ago, jsprt14 said:

He is cheap because somehow Jeter conned all these investors into spending $1.2 BILLION on this team. Jeter made his money back and bounced, but Sherman is stuck with this albatross with low revenue.

Doubt many will get this but...

 

 

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1 hour ago, MarlinsLou said:

he's gotta fight low revenue by...... creating that better product!

Yea this is what kills me about the "Bruce is cheap" thing. He'd make a lot of money if he actually fielded a winning team. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.

1 hour ago, MarlinsLou said:

Lets assume all that is true.

Bruce bought a business and needs to field a better product. So he's gotta fight low revenue by...... creating that better product! This isn't a chicken or the egg scenario ya know? This is a build your brand and you might lose money for 2 years because no one trusts you, but that slowly erodes if you invest in your business? Plus winning would help.

It goes back to what I think we all agree - the Jayson Werth signing (or go bigger with a Correa). It's time to go sign someone next offseason (as they can't now) and show people you mean business, as well as Ng then must trade something for a 2nd massive player. It's time to put up.

They whiffed this offseason completing the puzzle, so do they actually do it next and step all the way to contending? Past behavior dictates no, but we'll see.

Bruce Sherman clearly doesnt know how to run a baseball team....and why would he? He assumed Jeter would handle the baseball side and the revenue streams would be flowing.   Both have failed to materialize.

 

This was all a part of Jeter's ego wanting to play owner for a few years. It didn't matter if the investors he was able to persuade knew anything about baseball.

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4 minutes ago, SilverBullet said:

Yea this is what kills me about the "Bruce is cheap" thing. He'd make a lot of money if he actually fielded a winning team. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.

but then you have to pay the eggs more, so it's better to keep them in the carton

1 minute ago, jsprt14 said:

Bruce Sherman clearly doesnt know how to run a baseball team....and why would he? He assumed Jeter would handle the baseball side and the revenue stream would be flowing.   Both have failed to materialize.

He always admitted he didn't know how to run a team so I think his role has always been just ok'ing financial decisions. In that sense he has a lot of say in how the team is gonna be built but I don't think he's "running the team." Maybe Kim has no clue how to get him to put more into payroll?

3 minutes ago, SilverBullet said:

He always admitted he didn't know how to run a team so I think his role has always been just ok'ing financial decisions. In that sense he has a lot of say in how the team is gonna be built but I don't think he's "running the team." Maybe Kim has no clue how to get him to put more into payroll?

Should we just go to FedEx and print out life size cut outs of Sandy, Jazz, Pablo, and..... Luzardo (whose 4th most important at this point? He's surpassed Rogers even with the SSS of this season right?), and then do smaller ones of Lewin, Sanchez, Garcia, Rogers, Rojas, Cooper, Wendle, Anderson, Soler, Eury, Meyer, Cabrera, Watson, etc.

Because frankly, that's all Kim needs to do here to make a compelling argument to invest in the team. Prepare cardboard cutouts in a Sgt. Pepper's sort of vibe. Bruce has to like the Beatles to use his emotions against him. Right?

2 hours ago, jsprt14 said:

He is cheap because somehow Jeter conned all these investors into spending $1.2 BILLION on this team. Jeter made his money back and bounced, but Sherman is stuck with this albatross with low revenue.

Jeter was the best thing to happen to this franchise since the stadium deal got approved. It's no coincidence he left this offseason. He realized Sherman was garbage.
 

I don't buy that Jeter, who has only ever really played baseball his whole life, somehow conned these ultra-wealthy businessmen into investing into something. It's astronomically more likely that Jeter was used by these ultra-wealthy businessmen to acquire a team they had no intention of actually improving. Jeter, Ng, etc. are for optics. Sherman is a real piece of shit.

21 minutes ago, Entendu said:

Jeter was the best thing to happen to this franchise since the stadium deal got approved. It's no coincidence he left this offseason. He realized Sherman was garbage.
 

I don't buy that Jeter, who has only ever really played baseball his whole life, somehow conned these ultra-wealthy businessmen into investing into something. It's astronomically more likely that Jeter was used by these ultra-wealthy businessmen to acquire a team they had no intention of actually improving. Jeter, Ng, etc. are for optics. Sherman is a real piece of shit.

You started and ended real strong, and I'm not getting into this again beyond this post, but you should read the last thing I posted here - https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/79451-kim-ng-after-first-full-year/page/9/#comments. Let's strive to be better.

 

2 hours ago, MarlinsLou said:

You started and ended real strong, and I'm not getting into this again beyond this post, but you should read the last thing I posted here - https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/79451-kim-ng-after-first-full-year/page/9/#comments. Let's strive to be better.

 

You seem to be obsessed with victimizing women. Why do  you think women constantly need to be defended like they're nothing more than  damsels in distress?

I'm perfectly fine the way I am. I do think you need to be better though.

2 hours ago, SonOfJack said:

Uh oh. 

It's hilarious because I *would* put little buzzwords in my post to piss people off but this sensitivity is so bizarre that I swear I wasn't trying to piss anyone off with this one. Alas....

4 minutes ago, Entendu said:

You seem to be obsessed with victimizing women. Why do  you think women constantly need to be defended like they're nothing more than  damsels in distress

He also won’t criticize Kim Ng at all. He seems to be treating her differently just based on the fact she’s a woman. Seems kinda sexist to me!

Jeter did nothing that Loria and Samson couldn't have done unfortunately.

 

Look at all the studs Jeter's "Captains Camp" produced....

 

Going into Year 5 we are devoid of offensive talent and Jeter's big idea was to give Castellanos 100 million.

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7 hours ago, jsprt14 said:

Jeter did nothing that Loria and Samson couldn't have done unfortunately.

 

Look at all the studs Jeter's "Captains Camp" produced....

 

Going into Year 5 we are devoid of offensive talent and Jeter's big idea was to give Castellanos 100 million.

That was not a bad approach. Look at Reynolds.... He's OPSing .720 right now. That wouldn't have really worked either. Sometimes hitters slump

4 hours ago, Entendu said:

That was not a bad approach. Look at Reynolds.... He's OPSing .720 right now. That wouldn't have really worked either. Sometimes hitters slump

he was just sad he didn't get traded to Miami...totally trying to lower his value so Kim will actually trade for him

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Down 5 - 0 against Verlander, the offense somehow manages to get 4 runs back and then Don goes with Bleier in the 7th and Head in the 8th???

 

Seriously, fuck this shit... Fire the motherfucker

17 minutes ago, CyggyMarlin said:

Down 5 - 0 against Verlander, the offense somehow manages to get 4 runs back and then Don goes with Bleier in the 7th and Head in the 8th???

 

Seriously, fuck this shit... Fire the motherfucker

EvErYonE nEeds 2 pLay

Inexcusably poor management from Don today. Can't count this as a Mattingloss because EdCab gave up the 5 and we never came back from that, but Don just eliminated any chance of it with his bullpen mistakes. 

Can we make this happen already?

How about we try what the White Sox fans did? “Fire Don!?!”

How do you take your ace/franchise player out of the game in the 8th tonight? You trust him enough to face Harper, but not Didi Gregorius who he dominated all night? What’s the thought process? Too much good momentum after Realmuto’s double play? 

Mattingly’s never won anything, and clearly never will. 

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