rmc523 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) The "smaller piece" is reportedly a PTBNL. Edited August 2, 2022 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Because I think of these things... Bass left Toronto for Miami and gets send back up there. What a bitch as far as real life stuff. But good for him going back to a real team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I'm assuming Groshans is pretty much MLB ready? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFishFan Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Well, Marlins got rid of Fishman and Bass in the same week. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major-Minor Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Jays fans feel think Groshans stinks...who knows. Exactly the coin flip I'd expect from Ng. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, SilverBullet said: I'm assuming Groshans is pretty much MLB ready? He can’t hit according to his minor league numbers, but I guess it’s cool to get a top 100 prospect for Pop and Bass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSE Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Not liking Groshans numbers to be honest. Sub .250 and 1 homer this season in the minors. He’s not even a speed guy as he only has 2 steals. if a guy isn’t producing in the minors… yea I’m not hopeful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, Erick said: He can’t hit according to his minor league numbers, but I guess it’s cool to get a top 100 prospect for Pop and Bass. No way he’s still too 100 after this flop of a season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Doesn’t strike out a lot I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFishFan Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 The trade is just Bleh for me. The only benefit is not having Bass and Pop around to give up runs in close games. Groshans seems like the Marlins replacement for Isan Diaz.. which knowing the Marlins, I wouldn't be surprised if they give Groshans a chance next year and keep LeBlanc in AAA. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flasportsfan88 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 He's on a serious power slump. His power #'s last year were fine. I think you take the risk. A first round, top 100 prospect shortstop talent who had success in the minors (albeit not huge sample size) in the midst of a power slump... Buying low here may not be the worst idea. Still only 22 in AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricOwens! Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Feels like a buy low scenario similar to Jazz. IIRC Jazz had a bad season the year we traded for him. This is a lower upside deal I'd imagine though since Gallen >>>> Bass + Pop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Well who the hell knows on the return but getting anything for Bass and Pop is something she had to do. Now finish off with Aguilar Bleier and other relievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 This is really solid for two relievers they can easily replace. Groshans is a good prospect. "Drafted in 2018, Groshans has only played in about one season’s worth of career games due to a severe 2019 foot injury and 2020’s lost pandemic campaign. He has not performed in the manner that was projected of him coming out of high school, when he was viewed as a corner infield power-over-hit prototype. Instead, Groshans has shown excellent control of the strike zone and promising bat-to-ball skills despite his odd-looking bat path, while continuing to mostly play shortstop all the way through Double-A. He still projects to third base, and that combined with Groshans’ surprisingly low high-end exit velos caused us to do a fairly extensive re-evaluation, as corner infielders don’t typically project as everyday players without impact power. On paper, his skill set reads more like the last half-decade of Evan Longoria’s production than that of a 30-homer threat, and the perceived variance of Groshans’ outcomes has narrowed. Ultimately, what he did as a 21-year-old at Double-A was impressive, the average major-league batting line has fallen each of the last two years, and we’re still comfortable projecting Groshans as a good big leaguer, but not a star." He's 22. He is young for his level. His BB/K is excellent if any power returns at all. Frankly, the BB/K is really interesting. Take that Don for the all power/strike out 30% of the time approach? This is good bet but much much much more offense is needed. This also lets them move on from Wendle/Rojas right now. So I assume one of them gets traded quickly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, MarlinsLou said: This is good bet but much much much more offense is needed. Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada-marlin24 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Before this season his hitting numbers were pretty decent. Just having a bad season I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, canada-marlin24 said: Before this season his hitting numbers were pretty decent. Just having a bad season I think. 22 in AAA. For perspective, Bleday was 24 when he got there and Burdick 25. Groshans seems like a guy they call up after the super 2 deadline next year... or maybe 15 games into the 2023 season if you know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirFishFan Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 So now the Blue Jays bullpen will include: Adam Cimber Anthony Bass Yimi Garcia Zach Pop Trevor Richards David Phelps Six former Marlins. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 27 minutes ago, pollythewog said: No way he’s still too 100 after this flop of a season No 82 on the midseason rankings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Good trade for the Marlins to get a top 100 prospect for 2 relievers. Bullpens are easiest to fix year in and year out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Das Texan said: Good trade for the Marlins to get a top 100 prospect for 2 relievers. Bullpens are easiest to fix year in and year out. Sure if you spend $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 minute ago, pollythewog said: Sure if you spend $ well yes. but still easy to fix and easy to fix on 1-2 year deals which for ownership groups not leading the Marlins, Pirates and A's is not a big deal. Hell the Rays even would probably be open to spending a few cents on relievers if they didnt already have 20 options laying around in their minor league system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 this is a good trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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