Admin Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I only know the good clubs like the Yankees and the Dodgers always do their best to keep the good relief arms like Chapman and Jansen. Does a team in last place and no expectation of competing in 2019 also really need big-time relief arms? Seems like a return package of prospects would be much more valuable assuming they can find the right deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Does a team in last place and no expectation of competing in 2019 also really need big-time relief arms? Seems like a return package of prospects would be much more valuable assuming they can find the right deals. Omg its logical thinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THRILLHO Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I only know the good clubs like the Yankees and the Dodgers always do their best to keep the good relief arms like Chapman and Jansen. If we had a reliever like those two then I could see the logic in keeping them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 If we had a reliever like those two then I could see the logic in keeping them What do you mean by "like those two?" [ATTACH]2055._xfImport[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 The Yankees traded Chapman for Gleyber Torres. They got the money to sign him back after trade him,I hope we could do that too if we trade Bearclow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Does a team in last place and no expectation of competing in 2019 also really need big-time relief arms? Seems like a return package of prospects would be much more valuable assuming they can find the right deals. They're young enough and cheap enough to keep in this team and be the core of the pen when we fight for the playoffs in the 2020 or later,or you choose to spend big on the FA relief arms at that time ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 They got the money to sign him back after trade him,I hope we could do that too if we trade Bearclow. He isn't a free agent after the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 They're young enough and cheap enough to keep in this team and be the core of the pen when we fight for the playoffs in the 2020 or later,or you choose to spend big on the FA relief arms at that time ? No I assume so other relievers will come up and take their place, just like how they became relievers. It is a revolving door in bullpens and that is universal really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 He isn't a free agent after the season. He would be a FA in the 2022 and maybe we need a big name closer at that time… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 He would be a FA in the 2022 and maybe we need a big name closer at that time… Hopefully we'll need one sooner and develop one! Signing back-end relievers is usually a bad investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovertical Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Conley to close. They should 100% move Claw when the inevitable overpay offer rolls in at the deadline. GMs always overpay for quality shutdown arms at the deadline (see: Hill, Michael) and teams in contention can seemingly never have enough. Relievers are also perhaps the easiest holes to fill during the offseason so it makes sense to trade away Claw provided the return is decent. There will be plenty more like him later on down the line for the Fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada-marlin24 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I agree with not being inclined to move them. They are proving to be formidable and can be a key to getting back into contention much faster. They also all have several years of control left. Really liking how Conley has looked out of the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 You can't just make every player that produces untouchable. This team is still at least 2 seasons away from legit contention so there's little reason in holding onto relievers if we can net a nice return package of prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricOwens! Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Bearclaw trade for sure assuming the value is fair but idk if we'll get good enough value for Conley or Steck. They might have to produce for another year before anyone is willing to give top prospect for them, especially Conley. There's always the chance someone falls in love with them and is willing to take a risk and if that's the case then trade them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Remember when you clowns wanted to hold onto Straily because he was a building block for the future? Relievers are more volatile than starting pitchers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 They're young enough and cheap enough to keep in this team and be the core of the pen when we fight for the playoffs in the 2020 or later,or you choose to spend big on the FA relief arms at that time ? You don't know that any of these relievers will be any good or even still in the majors in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Barraclough needs to be traded before the deadline because that regression monster is going to hit him hard. We need to get as much as we can for him before he lowers his trade value with a couple of bad outings in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 It's kinda funny that Conley is suddenly a valuable trade chip lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 It's kinda funny that Conley is suddenly a valuable trade chip lol Even funnier that some are considering him untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Some of you probably wanted to give AJ Ramos and David Phelps 10 year deals last year. We might be a contender in 2028, we could’ve used them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Some of you probably wanted to give AJ Ramos and David Phelps 10 year deals last year. We might be a contender in 2028, we could’ve used them... This sums it up quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 This sums it up quite well. I am going to have to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydawg Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Remember when you clowns wanted to hold onto Straily because he was a building block for the future? Relievers are more volatile than starting pitchers I don't think anyone called Straily a building block for the future. His appeal has always been that he still has plenty of club control left for a quality back end starter. Those aren't building blocks. Those are trade chips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Hopefully we'll need one sooner and develop one! Signing back-end relievers is usually a bad investment. It's really contradiction that you want to trade the one that we developed and want to develop one at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 You don't know that any of these relievers will be any good or even still in the majors in 2020. Then it would be really stupid for other teams to trade their top prospects for these relief arms,right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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