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fish20 Jumbo Shrimp

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Because you've done it before?

 

because i can see how the best teams in baseball do it, and it is nothing like how the marlins have been doing it for going on 15 years now and especially the last 5 or 6 years of ignoring the draft and IFA and in turn having a terrible farm system which in turn leads to spending huge sums of free agent money on average players like Prado, Volquez, Chen, Ziegler, and Tazawa.

 

 

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it has nothing to do with overspending on the franchise, it has to do with a franchise that was losing money every year.  If Mas would have kept the team in tact he would just have been putting off the inevitable like Loria has been doing for about 2 or 3 years now.

 

And ya, new owners go out and try to get more investors.  That's kind of how things are done.

 

Wow, talk about being blind. It has EVERYTHING to do with that. They took on 400 mil in debt service. That was unnecessary considering the team is at best worth about 700-800mil. Sherman''s plan is obvious for those who him. He cut payroll since those savings will go to pay off the debt. The plan is to keep expenses low as possible while the debt is paid off, ride the resurgence of baseball with higher revenue sharing from considering the team as as a low market even if they are not to get a bigger share of the pie, then rework TV deal to get more money, which won't be that much as they want considering the product on the field, then  add the naming rights.  Wait for the debt to be paid off or significantly reduced then flip the team. If they can sell it for even 900 mil they win.  

 

If you want to believe this is the recipe for a successful product on the field, you're welcome to it. 

 

And yes investors are sought after a certain period of time for expansion projects or down turns in the business, not immediately after purchase.

 

 

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because i can see how the best teams in baseball do it, and it is nothing like how the marlins have been doing it for going on 15 years now and especially the last 5 or 6 years of ignoring the draft and IFA and in turn having a terrible farm system which in turn leads to spending huge sums of free agent money on average players like Prado, Volquez, Chen, Ziegler, and Tazawa.

 

And what makes you so sure that this piece of shit Jeter knows how to do this?  He's never done it before.  So far he has botched everthing he's done including this trade. 

 

 

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And what makes you so sure that this piece of shit Jeter knows how to do this?  He's never done it before.  So far he has botched everthing he's done including this trade. 

 

he hasnt botched anything.  the pr isnt great, but who gives a fuck about pr.  he is overhauling a terrible franchise and trying to create a new relationship with the community. He could probably explain moves better, but i could really care less about PR, i want to see a winning baseball team put together competently and with an ability to win consistently and they have shown with their moves so far that that is what they are trying to do.

 

Also, Jeter isnt running the baseball operations side.  Denbo and Mike Hill are so you can stop blaming jeter for baseball moves.  He's not even going to the winter meetings.   And im not sure how jeter botched this trade when the marlins were put into a no win situation because Loria gave Stanton a NTC.

 

 

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And this:

 

https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/12/09/giancarlo-stanton-trade-yankees-marlins-brian-cashman-aaron-judge-gary-sanchez

 

"And then there are the Marlins. What else can you call this trade other than an abject disaster for a franchise seemingly committed to being a pointless mess for the rest of its existence? Jeter can’t be faulted for the no-trade clause that Stanton used to blow up his plans; that was the parting gift of Jeffrey Loria, steadfast in his devotion to screwing the fans of south Florida. But no one forced Jeter to work out trades before even knowing if Stanton would approve them, and no one made him offload his franchise player despite Stanton’s refusals destroying Miami’s leverage. Conspiracy theories will follow Jeter trading his best player to his old team right after taking over, but it’s not that complicated. This is just an owner completely in over his head getting worked by someone far savvier.

 

Pity, then, Marlins fans, who have stuck by this team through firesale after firesale only to be rewarded with yet another, and this time by an ownership group that looks poised to do less for the franchise than even Loria. By dealing Stanton, Jeter and company have showed that all they care about is the bottom line, not the product on the field. The result will be a completely awful and unwatchable team that should, to Jeter’s great joy, cost nothing. The Marlins will be burned down for the insurance money under the guise of rebuilding and getting rid of onerous debts that the owners would claim impeded winning. But a team in one of America’s largest media markets shouldn’t have to sell off its best assets for pennies on the dollar or punt on fielding even a nominally competitive squad. This is a terribly sad day for baseball in Miami, and a shameful moment for MLB, which never should have allowed Jeter and Bruce Sherman to buy the team."

 

 

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And this:

 

https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/12/09/giancarlo-stanton-trade-yankees-marlins-brian-cashman-aaron-judge-gary-sanchez

 

"And then there are the Marlins. What else can you call this trade other than an abject disaster for a franchise seemingly committed to being a pointless mess for the rest of its existence? Jeter can’t be faulted for the no-trade clause that Stanton used to blow up his plans; that was the parting gift of Jeffrey Loria, steadfast in his devotion to screwing the fans of south Florida. But no one forced Jeter to work out trades before even knowing if Stanton would approve them, and no one made him offload his franchise player despite Stanton’s refusals destroying Miami’s leverage. Conspiracy theories will follow Jeter trading his best player to his old team right after taking over, but it’s not that complicated. This is just an owner completely in over his head getting worked by someone far savvier.

 

Pity, then, Marlins fans, who have stuck by this team through firesale after firesale only to be rewarded with yet another, and this time by an ownership group that looks poised to do less for the franchise than even Loria. By dealing Stanton, Jeter and company have showed that all they care about is the bottom line, not the product on the field. The result will be a completely awful and unwatchable team that should, to Jeter’s great joy, cost nothing. The Marlins will be burned down for the insurance money under the guise of rebuilding and getting rid of onerous debts that the owners would claim impeded winning. But a team in one of America’s largest media markets shouldn’t have to sell off its best assets for pennies on the dollar or punt on fielding even a nominally competitive squad. This is a terribly sad day for baseball in Miami, and a shameful moment for MLB, which never should have allowed Jeter and Bruce Sherman to buy the team."

 

AMEN!!!

 

 

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