Joe Girardi Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I's 6"4 the same height as Olsen? We already have a lot of 6"6 - 6"8 in our rotation so this guy is going to look small in a Marlins Uniform next to Johnson, Miller, and Volstad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Can someone please tell me that this guy is awesome. Please. This guy is just like Ryan Tucker. Big time plus fastball, projects positively as a plus power reliever. Beinfest is assembling quite a young bullpen. This is the best trade of the three of them so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I's 6"4 the same height as Olsen? We already have a lot of 6"6 - 6"8 in our rotation so this guy is going to look small in a Marlins Uniform next to Johnson, Miller, and Volstad. Yeah, but he is big. Just look at that picture Benched posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Best way to judge a trade? Find out how the other team's fans are reacting. AND CUBS FANS DON'T SEEM TOO FOND OF THIS! http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2008/11/13/...re-closer-gregg They should be pissed. I haven't clicked the link, but they'll feel a little better with Type A consideration when they realize that's part of Gregg's value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reason63 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Why are we rushing all these trades? I feel we are dumping the team to sign who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champkind Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Can someone please tell me that this guy is awesome. Please. This guy is just like Ryan Tucker. Big time plus fastball, projects positively as a plus power reliever. Beinfest is assembling quite a young bullpen. This is the best trade of the three of them so far. Thank you. I'm starting to realize that I had completely unrealistic expectations of what the Olsen&Gregg trades would net. But atleast this and the Jacobs trade should really set us up with a strong, cheap bullpen for the next several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I absolutely love Ceda's arm. Now if he can keep his weight in check watch out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Lindstrom, Ceda, Tucker, Nunez. That's a lotta MPH right there. And real young. And real cheap. That's 2/3 or 4/7 of a bullpen that could be really good (and cheap) for a handful of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Much better deal than the last one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo McDonald Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Baseball Prospectus (notably Kevin Goldstein) had Ceda as the Cubs #3 prospect heading into the 2009 season 3. Jose Ceda, RHP DOB: 1/28/87 Height/Weight: 6-4/275 Bats/Throws: R/R Drafted/Signed: Dominican Republic, 2004 (Padres) 2008 Stats: 4.80 ERA at High-A (54.1-41-28-53), 7.17 DERA; 2.08 ERA at Double-A (30.1-26-14-42), 2.89 DERA Last Year's Ranking: 4 Year in Review: The top closer prospect in the system began the year as a starter in order to work on his overall game, and returned to his dominating ways when moved back into the closer's role at Double-A. The Good: Ceda brings presence to the mound with the size, stuff, aggressiveness, and intimidation factor of a shut-down closer. He has the classic closer's combination of fastball/slider, both knockout pitches, with the fastball sitting at 94-97 mph and touching 100, while the power slider features plenty of depth and tilt. The Bad: Ceda overthrows both pitches at times, which can lead to control issues, as can his arm-heavy mechanics, which involve a significant amount of grunting. He experimented with a changeup while starting, but it was never any more than a show-me pitch, and nobody argues with the fact that he's a reliever only. His size is a bit of a concern, and he started to put on some soft weight last year. Fun Fact: When pitching in the ninth inning or later for Double-A Tennessee, Ceda allowed just two runs over 16 innings while striking out 28. Perfect World Projection: He should become a dominating closer. Glass Half Empty: Unless his control problems become a constant, or something else unpredictable happens, it's hard to not see Ceda pitching in the late innings. Path To The Big Leagues: The Cubs are set in terms of who pitches late in games for now, so Ceda's rise to the closer role with his current club could take a while. Timetable: Team officials think that Ceda is close to ready for the big leagues, and depending on the numbers game, he'll begin the season closing at either Double- or Triple-A. He could be up by the end of the year, giving the Cubs one of the most power-armed bullpens in all of baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 And for the last time.... IT'S SUPERMAN TIME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Kangaroo Court has charged Jose Ceda $10 for his eating habits, which involve asking a young kid at Roger Dean Stadium in Jupiter to buy him ice cream. Let's hope he can keep his weight down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsprt05 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Baseball Prospectus (notably Kevin Goldstein) had Ceda as the Cubs #3 prospect heading into the 2009 season 3. Jose Ceda, RHP DOB: 1/28/87 Height/Weight: 6-4/275 Bats/Throws: R/R Drafted/Signed: Dominican Republic, 2004 (Padres) 2008 Stats: 4.80 ERA at High-A (54.1-41-28-53), 7.17 DERA; 2.08 ERA at Double-A (30.1-26-14-42), 2.89 DERA Last Year's Ranking: 4 Year in Review: The top closer prospect in the system began the year as a starter in order to work on his overall game, and returned to his dominating ways when moved back into the closer's role at Double-A. The Good: Ceda brings presence to the mound with the size, stuff, aggressiveness, and intimidation factor of a shut-down closer. He has the classic closer's combination of fastball/slider, both knockout pitches, with the fastball sitting at 94-97 mph and touching 100, while the power slider features plenty of depth and tilt. The Bad: Ceda overthrows both pitches at times, which can lead to control issues, as can his arm-heavy mechanics, which involve a significant amount of grunting. He experimented with a changeup while starting, but it was never any more than a show-me pitch, and nobody argues with the fact that he's a reliever only. His size is a bit of a concern, and he started to put on some soft weight last year. Fun Fact: When pitching in the ninth inning or later for Double-A Tennessee, Ceda allowed just two runs over 16 innings while striking out 28. Perfect World Projection: He should become a dominating closer. Glass Half Empty: Unless his control problems become a constant, or something else unpredictable happens, it's hard to not see Ceda pitching in the late innings. Path To The Big Leagues: The Cubs are set in terms of who pitches late in games for now, so Ceda's rise to the closer role with his current club could take a while. Timetable: Team officials think that Ceda is close to ready for the big leagues, and depending on the numbers game, he'll begin the season closing at either Double- or Triple-A. He could be up by the end of the year, giving the Cubs one of the most power-armed bullpens in all of baseball. Are the Cubs aware that Kevin Gregg isn't very good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I would like to say hello to everyone from northsidebaseball.com! Gregg isn't that bad. Good ERA, good WHIP. He'll be a fine setup guy for you guys. Just don't let him close. He can't take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsprt05 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I would like to say hello to everyone from northsidebaseball.com! Kevin Gregg is very up and down. One outing he'll shut down the side. The next night he'll walk the bases loaded. That type of inconsistency has caused certain Marlins fans to throw chairs, lamps, books, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifftheiii Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Re: Gregg, one poster said: "insurance policy. not great but a low cost descent one. I?m still waiting to see what we gave up but I?m in favor of this deal if it wasnt too much." Oh the differences in organizations...where Gregg is a low cost option to them, he'd be one of our higher paid players (if my memory is accurate). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Yay! WE SHALL NEVER FORGET JULY 4TH 2008! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Dynasty Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Much better than the last deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFans46 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Oh the differences in organizations...where Gregg is a low cost option to them, he'd be one of our higher paid players (if my memory is accurate). Probably - his $2.5 million salary this year was the highest on the team (except for Lo Duca's $5 million but I don't think we paid more than 2.5). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knglover Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Cubs also want Hermida. The Cubs wont move on Hermida till the situation with peavy is worked out. I am guessing the same prospects would be involved. Obviously not as many of them if they went after hermida as it would take to get Peavy. I have a feeling alot of things are hinging on the Peavy situation. Back on topic: Overall i am happy over this one. Good riddance to an overachieving douche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Yay! WE SHALL NEVER FORGET JULY 4TH 2008! With both Olsen and Gregg gone, we can forget now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsMS_35 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Woohoo! Any video of Ceda? I'm excited to see what he can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Yay! WE SHALL NEVER FORGET JULY 4TH 2008! With both Olsen and Gregg gone, we can forget now. Its scarred my mind, I can never forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 MLBTR says the Cubs have "cut ties" with Kerry Wood and replaced him in the closer role with Kevin Gregg. Yikes, let's see how he handles that pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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